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#39: This week on Rise Recover Live, we revisit our powerful episode with Brian Hill, the founder and CEO of Edovo. Edovo is an organization that provides robust educational, vocational, and rehabilitative curriculums and content to incarcerated people.

While growing up, Brian’s father taught classes at a prison in California and would come home and read the essays written by his pupils as bedtime stories to his kids. Brian recounts how he could feel the hope emanating out of each of those essays. Now, Brian has dedicated his life to bringing folks daily access to education and programming, so anyone who wants to take a shot at turning their life around has the tools and resources to do so.

Tune into the episode to learn more about Brian and Edovo, and more!

To learn more about Edovo visit https://www.edovo.com/.

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#38: This week on Rise Recover Live we revisit our conversation with Eugene Barnes (he/him). A Baltimore city native, Eugene is a person in long-term recovery and the Volunteer Coordinator for The Phoenix-DFW.

Eugene started dancing at 11 years old and immediately fell in love with ballet. At 17, he accepted his first contract with a ballet company and spent 18 years dancing professionally. From his esteemed career as a professional dancer, to later working at a treatment center and then at The Phoenix, Eugene has adapted to many different spaces throughout his life. Tune into the episode to hear more from Eugene!

To learn more about Eugene, follow him on Instagram @eugene_cliffer.

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#37: This week on Rise Recover Live, we are circling back to a special episode recorded with Todd Jones! Todd found The Phoenix through an unlikely source: the Colorado Springs Drug Court. Like most, Todd had no idea what The Phoenix was at first. He also had little desire to be sober. He DID however want to stay out of jail.

In recalling rock climbing at his first Phoenix event, Todd remembers realizing "Wow, that's the first time I've had a win in a really long time." Now after nearly 14 years of volunteering and working at Phoenix, he's the Regional Manager and gets to see recovery in action every day, something he could never have fathomed in early sobriety.

Tune into the episode to hear Todd's story as we discuss his recovery journey, the barrier of stigma, fatherhood, and more.

Discover the app that connects you with community, wellbeing, recovery organizations, and thousands of recovery events at www.newform.org.

Join the Rise Recover Live Podcast Space on the NewForm mobile app and connect with our Podcast community at https://links.thephoenix.org/kSRumor5GTb.

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#36: Liz and Bryce The Third are back with another snack-sized episode of Rise Recover Live, diving into a question posed by James in Tulsa, Oklahoma: "Everything is changing and I hate it. How do you deal with constant changing in life when you're in recovery?"

While Liz and Bryce remind us they're only the experts of their own experiences, they offer insight into navigating life's curveballs without the old coping mechanisms. They explore how change can feel especially raw in recovery, and how community and connection can help us get through the experience.

For Bryce, meaningful relationships, like his friendship with Liz, and his community help him show up, even when the rug keeps getting pulled out from under him. Liz emphasizes the importance of building trusting relationships and finding an anchor to help weather the moments when life feels out of control.

Most importantly, they remind us that it's okay to admit change is hard, and you are valid in feeling that way. As Liz says, you've survived 100% of the changes so far, and that's something to be proud of.

Discover the app that connects you with community, wellbeing, recovery organizations, and thousands of recovery events at www.newform.org.

Join the Rise Recover Live Podcast Space on the NewForm mobile app and connect with our Podcast community at https://links.thephoenix.org/kSRumor5GTb.

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#35: This week on Rise Recover Live, Liz and Bryce The Third return to for a heartfelt conversation between two friends, diving into what it means to adapt.

As life moves through seasons, each one calls us to shift our mindsets and behaviors. For Liz, adaptation was a survival tool during active addiction. She reflects on the delicate balancing act of trying to feel better while in pain, reaching for the only tool she knew at the time.

But even before taking her last drink, Liz began to shift her mindset—deciding she deserved recovery and happiness. Now, her focus is maintenance: doing the daily work to feel strong and supported. Whether it’s going to bed early, seeing a therapist, staying connected to friends, or being present, these tools help her navigate whatever life throws at her.

Bryce shares how he actively leans into the challenge of shifting his mindset—because it's something he can control. Every day, he identifies what's within his power to change and what steps align him with the person he wants to be. It's how he bends without breaking. And when he catches himself being self-critical, he pauses to reframe and practice gratitude.

Tune into the episode to hear the full conversation and hop into the Podcast space on the NewForm app to let us know what are some tools that allow you to adapt.

Discover the app that connects you with community, wellbeing, recovery organizations, and thousands of recovery events at www.newform.org.

Join the Rise Recover Live Podcast Space on the NewForm mobile app and connect with our Podcast community at https://links.thephoenix.org/kSRumor5GTb.

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*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement from The Phoenix

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#34: This week on Rise Recover Live, Liz takes the mic for her first-ever solo episode—connecting one-on-one with listeners in a heartfelt, snack-sized reflection.

She opens up about her lifelong relationship with anxiety—her ever-present companion through addiction, recovery, and growth. From white-knuckling through early sobriety to learning how to soften into support, Liz shares how her tools have evolved over time.

Where she once reached for a drink, she now reaches for her people—friends, family, routines, and clinical support that remind her she’s not alone. Because even when anxiety grabs the wheel, Liz has learned to breathe, check in, and return to what matters.

She leaves us with a simple but powerful reminder: you’re not alone, and it’s okay to want to feel better. Sometimes the most radical thing you can do is take a breath and take care of you.

Discover the app that connects you with community, wellbeing, recovery organizations, and thousands of recovery events at www.newform.org.

Join the Rise Recover Live Podcast Space on the NewForm mobile app and connect with our Podcast community at https://links.thephoenix.org/kSRumor5GTb.

This resource was shared by Tiffany: If you are a woman in need of support in the New Hampshire or Massachusetts area, Jasmine Grace is an organization that may be able to help. You can learn more at their website: https://www.jasminegrace.org/

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement from The Phoenix

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#33: This week on Rise, Recover, Live, Bryce The Third sits down with Sharon Donnelly (she/her), President of the Teddy Kradzinski Foundation, registered nurse and Certified Case Manager (CCM).

Sharon shares a deeply personal story as a mother navigating her son Teddy's battle with substance use disorder. She reflects on the challenges of finding resources and treatment in a fragmented system—what she describes as a relentless “hamster wheel”—and the three years she spent with Teddy while he was in recovery. Throughout their journey, Sharon emphasizes the importance of setting boundaries, taking care of yourself, and meeting loves ones where they are.

By sharing her story, including the heartbreaking loss of Teddy to an accidental overdose, Sharon hopes to bring comfort to other bereaved families and spread awareness. She wants them to know they are not alone, and that a compassionate, understanding community is here to support them.

Teddy was so much more than his addiction. His legacy of open-heartedness, curiosity, and non-judgmental spirit lives on through the work of the Teddy Kradzinski Foundation.

Learn more about the Teddy Kradzinski Foundation by visiting www.teawithted.org and follow along on Instagram @tea_withted and Facebook. To connect directly, you can reach Sharon at info@teawithted.org.

Register for the 4th Annual Walk to Remember in honor of Teddy, in Philadelphia on June 21, 2025, at givebutter.com/TKFwalk2025.

Join The Sun Will Rise Foundation on New Form mobile app here: https://links.thephoenix.org/uYCgTQP7tTb.

For additional grief support resources, visit Steps4Hope at www.steps4hope.org.

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement from The Phoenix

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#32: This week on Rise, Recover, Live, Liz and Bryce The Third welcome back Scott Strode, Founder and Executive Director of The Phoenix, for a long-awaited conversation.

Since his last appearance on the show, a lot has changed—most notably, Scott has written and published his first book. In Rise. Recover. Thrive. he opens up about the cathartic, sometimes scary, and emotional process of translating his personal journey into recovery onto paper, while spotlighting the work of The Phoenix movement.

Through the writing process, Scott reflects on what makes The Movement so powerful: the belief that those seen as "the problem" in society are actually the solution. By focusing on the strength in people and treating folks with dignity, we can all thrive and even reach back a hand to help those behind us.

Now, nearly two decades since founding The Phoenix, Scott seeks to memorialize the ethos of this work. Even if The Phoenix isn't the one to ultimately transform how our society approaches addiction, the ideas can inform those who come after, aiding them in carrying the movement even further.

Tune in to hear Scott's wisdom as we discuss what first inspired him to start this work, how that motivation has changed, and why thriving—no matter how distant it may seem—remains the goal, and much more.

Learn more about Scott at www.scottstrode.com, and find his book at www.scottstrode.com/book or wherever books are sold.

Visit www.newform.org to discover the app that connects you with community, wellbeing and recovery organizations, and thousands of recovery events. And be sure to check out thephoenix.org to learn more about the movement and its ethos.

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement from The Phoenix

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#31: This week on Rise, Recover, Live, things get playful—and a little personal.

Liz and Bryce The Third go off the cuff in a rapid-fire Q&A that’s equal parts hilarious and heartfelt. From comfort foods and guilty pleasure shows to recovery myths and mantras, no question is off-limits.

Liz drops gems on what surprised her most about sobriety, what freedom really means now, and why recovery friendships hit different. Bryce shares the rituals that keep him grounded, the quote he lives by, and the planner that’s basically his ride-or-die.

It’s the kind of unfiltered connection recovery makes possible—deep, honest, and full of unexpected laughs. Tap in and get to know your hosts like never before.

For Bryce's Full Focus Planner, check out their store at https://fullfocusstore.com/?aff=1065&utm_source=partner.

Check out what used to be The Phoenix mobile app, now called NewForm: Recovery & Wellbeing and hop into the Podcast Space to tell us about your experiences and way of navigating life: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/newform-recovery-wellbeing/id1513232300

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#30: This week on Rise, Recover, Live, Liz and Bryce The Third sink back into the couch for a real one on mentorship—why we chase it, when we need it, and when it might actually be okay to skip it.

For Bryce, mentorship has been non-negotiable. Whether it’s recovery, business, or just becoming a better human, he sees guidance as a lifeline. Liz? Not so much. She’s in a season of radical self-trust, choosing her own tools, her own path, and walking away from anything (or anyone) that doesn’t fit.

Together, they unpack what it means to seek wisdom without outsourcing your worth. It’s a convo about mentors, chosen fam, and how to keep the relationships that really see you.

Spoiler: Sometimes the best mentor is the version of you that finally says, “Nah, I’m good.”

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#29: Bryce The Third returns this week to reconnect with our podcast community and respond to questions from our listeners. One powerful question comes from Jim in New Jersey: "After a life of addiction, how do I rebuild my confidence?"

While Bryce reminds us he's no expert, except in his own experience, he offers honest insight into what helped him regain confidence during his early recovery and beyond.

Although it can feel overwhelming and like there is much to make amends for, Bryce reminds us that making reparations doesn't happen all at once. The first step is supporting your wellbeing and building that solid foundation of support. Now in his 12th year of recovery, Bryce shares that overtime he's learned that we have no control over how others perceive us. We can only control how we show up for ourselves and the folks around us.

For Bryce, confidence has come from consistently working on doing better for himself and his community. Tune in as Bryce opens up about the challenges in early recovery, the lessons he's learned over the years, and how he's rebuilt his confidence.

Check out the new version of The Phoenix mobile app, called NewForm: Recovery & Wellbeing: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/newform-recovery-wellbeing/id1513232300.

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#28: This week, Liz and Bryce The Third sit down with Calli Nguyen (she/her) — a 24 year old first-generation graduate student and full-time content creator. In addition to recently earning her Master’s in Health Administration, Calli pursues a variety of creative endeavors as an influencer, actor, model, entrepreneur, and passionate mental health advocate.

At the heart of everything she does is a clear mission: to create meaningful impact. Through personal reflection, Calli realized two key aspects of her purpose: first, that she wants to be a strong and proud representation for the AAIP (Asian American and Indigenous Pacific Islander) community and all underrepresented groups; and second, that she wants to reach a wide audience, lending her voice and amplifying other's who need it.

As a person in recovery from alcoholism and self-harm, Calli blends her lived experience with her knowledge of healthcare medicine and her skills at content creation to connect with folks far and wide.

Tune in to hear Calli's story — from losing herself during active addiction to finding her way back to healing and community. We dive into everything from navigating early recovery and the tools she uses, to the unexpected challenges she faced with social media after getting sober.

To learn more about Calli, find her on Tik Tok at www.tiktok.com/@calli_nguyen?lang=en and follow her on Instagram www.instagram.com/calli_nguyen.

Check out out Calli's YouTube channel at www.youtube.com/@calli_nguyen/videos.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement from The Phoenix
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#27: Liz and Bryce The Third are back this week for a deeply personal and meaningful conversation, exploring topics like the human condition, perseverance, and cravings. Liz opens up about her lifelong battle with anxiety and the "Sunday Scaries," a struggle that dates back to her childhood. For Bryce, similar emotions were tied to the physical toll of his manual labor job during his active addiction.

Together, Bryce and Liz share thoughts they've had on the human condition — the worst-case scenarios we imagine when we feel trapped and dissatisfied. Bryce shares his journey in recovery to pay off his daunting credit card debt and the fear of never seeing the end. But through reflecting on that struggle, he discovered that the true reward isn't just the accomplishment, but the work itself. It's the discomfort and struggle that fuel growth.

Tune in as Bryce and Liz discuss the power of recognizing and sitting with cravings, finding balance between financial stability and creative freedom — all while embracing the discomfort that leads to personal growth.

Check out the new version of The Phoenix mobile app, called NewForm: Recovery & Wellbeing: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/newform-recovery-wellbeing/id1513232300.

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#26: At 19, Kaley Jones (she/her) found herself at a crossroads: one path led her to Mexico, where she could continue a life gripped by substance use disorder and dangerous circumstances; the other was the long, daunting journey toward sobriety — a journey that felt not only impossible, but one she didn't think she wanted.

Over 10 years later, Kaley now believes that choosing sobriety was the key to stepping into the fullest version of herself. Though it's been tough work, even grueling at times, she's reclaimed the life she once thought she wasn't worthy of. She's incredibly grateful she listened to her loved ones and took that leap of faith. In the episode, we dive into Kaley's story and much more:

Her full-circle realization: Now, Kaley works with individuals the same age she was when she first got sober, showing them that recovery is possible... and she's living proof.
Her definition of recovery as her relationships she's cultivated within a community that loves and supports her.
The power of intervention, and the conversations she had with her family at 19.
Kaley's first introduction to The Phoenix, and how she doubted hr ability to live a thriving life in sobriety, until she met someone wearing a "sober" shirt at a 12-step meeting.

Learn more about Kaley's story on the Stand Together Podcast.

Check out The Phoenix Moab video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZwV5Mfo02E.

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#25: This week, Liz and Bryce The Third return for another 'couch conversation' — those intimate, casual chats that naturally happen when you're with someone you know and trust. Now, a couple hundred episodes in, they reflect on how much the show has evolved and how their friendship has grown along the way.

Liz opens up about her discomfort with couch conversations. She shares that she's often hesitant to take up space talking about herself and her recovery, only wanting to share when she knows her words will be of service. Yet, it's conversations like these that allow Liz to feel truly seen, a feeling she's had to work through over time. Despite the discomfort and a potential for rejection, there is value in showing up fully as yourself. Liz emphasizes that it is those moments and conversations where true connection and healing happen.

Tune in to hear from Bryce The Third and Liz as they explore the power of sharing and vulnerability and how these moments deepen relationships and remind us that were are never truly alone.

Check out the new version of The Phoenix mobile app, called NewForm: Recovery & Wellbeing: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/newform-recovery-wellbeing/id1513232300.

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#24: Liz and Bryce The Third are back this week to dive into a crucial topic in their recoveries: resources and community. For Bryce, having his community and his people around him is essential. He reflects on his early days of seeking sobriety and the challenges he faced in finding and accessing the right recovery resources.

Liz, for years believed The Phoenix was the only recovery organization that aligned with her values of celebrating all pathways and emphasizing choice. However, through her work with The Phoenix, Liz has discovered a network of organizations that share this vision — offering help without dogma.

Just recovery evolves, so has The Phoenix app. The mobile app has transitioned into NewForm: a behavioral health resource hub centered on choice, safety, accessibility and community.

This new generation of the platform empowers folks to connect with and try a range of communities, resources, and conversations. After all, we're all recovering from something, and it's vital to have the the right support and choices at our fingertips.

Check out the new version of The Phoenix mobile app, called NewForm: Recovery & Wellbeing: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/newform-recovery-wellbeing/id1513232300.

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#23: This week, we're thrilled to welcome back our friend and podcast alum Nick Wells (he/him), President of Redemption Road Fitness Foundation (RF2) and The Phoenix Volunteer Manager in Colorado Springs. A lot has changed since Nick's first appearance in 2023. At the time, he had recently been granted clemency after serving 14 years of a 60-year sentence and had just been released from prison. Now, Nick is working as a staff member at The Phoenix, and RF2 has grown even stronger, expanding its program membership and affiliate facilities, all while transforming lives and reshaping prison culture, one person at a time.

Nick experienced firsthand how crucial mentorship and community are to keeping folks sober and out of prison. In this episode, he talks about his work with Redemption Road, and how going back into prisons and being a voice and resource was a possibility he never imagined he'd have. He also discusses adjusting to life after incarceration and how he prioritizes self-care, balancing his commitment to serving others with the importance of showing up for himself and enjoying life.

To learn more about Redemption Road, visit https://www.rf2.org/.

Check out Nick’s first podcast episode: Nick Wells: Paving the Road to Redemption.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

This resource was shared by Tiffany: If you are a woman in need of support in the New Hampshire or Massachusetts area, Jasmine Grace is an organization that may be able to help. You can learn more at their website: https://www.jasminegrace.org/

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement from The Phoenix
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#22: Gail Taylor's journey is a powerful story of reinvention and embracing new passions at any stage of life. A successful Investment Advisor, Gail (she/her) embarked on a second act that transformed her into a songwriter, author, motivational speaker, and philanthropist. Having faced addiction personally and within her family, Gail became a dedicated advocate for mental health, co-founding the Edmonton Mental Health Foundation and supporting second stage recovery initiatives like McDougall House.

At 58, Gail decided to follow her heart and began piano lessons. Two years later, she sold her practice and retired early to focus on studying music full-time. Drawing from her own experiences with substance use disorder and recovery, Gail wrote her first book Curveballs: Unlocking your Potential through Personal Growth and Inspirational Music, accompanied by her musical catalogue of 14 inspirational songs.

Tune into the conversation with Liz and Gail as they discuss her journey to find recovery, the connection between her and her son's recoveries, her music, and much more.

Learn more about Gail at www.gailtaylormusic.com and find where to purchase Curveballs at gailtaylorauthor.com

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

This resource was shared by Tiffany: If you are a woman in need of support in the New Hampshire or Massachusetts area, Jasmine Grace is an organization that may be able to help. You can learn more at their website: https://www.jasminegrace.org/

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement from The Phoenix
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#21: This week Liz and Bryce The Third sit down with Travis Mickel (he/him), Founder of Fronting Life, an organization dedicated to supporting all individuals on their healing journeys through a community-centered approach. Focused on meditation, mindfulness, creativity, and connection, Fronting Life promotes personal growth and encourages folks to create happiness and fun wherever they go.

In the episode, Travis opens up about his journey from the fast-paced, transactional world of luxury fashion in New York City to a transformative spiritual moment at a party that prompted him to leave the city and seek help. Despite the challenges, Travis is happy he is considered an alcoholic, as his path has shaped him into the person he is today. He's discovered that what truly matters is his ability to connect with the folks around him, spread love and compassion, and help others in need.

Tune in to learn more about Travis's journey, including how meditation and Buddhism became integral parts of his recovery, why he founded Fronting Life, and the story behind the organization's unique name.

Learn more about Fronting Life and check out their local events in Wilmington, NC at www.frontinglife.com. You can also find them on Instagram @frontinglife and Facebook.

To learn more about Travis, follow him on Instagram @tlmickel.

Join the Fronting Life space on The Phoenix Mobile App at ‎https://links.thephoenix.org/SqlC2rYlgRb.

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement from The Phoenix
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#20: Erin McIntosh (she/her) has been sober for 12 years and is passionate about bringing commUNITY together to have fun without the use of drugs or alcohol. After leaving a 12-year career, Erin launched her own business, WOOP Life, where she hosts sober silent disco dance parties combined with Authentic Relating Connection Games. A firm believer in getting 'high on life,' Erin is committed to spreading joy and connection amongst her community. This led her to create Thrive Alive, her first festival celebrating sober life and veganism.

In this episode, Erin shares her personal journey — from her epiphany about recovery while quarantining in her basement apartment 8 years into sobriety, to building spaces for folks to connect and creating WOOP Life. Tune into hear her story and more!

Check out the WOOP Life website at wooplife.com and follow Erin on Instagram @superduperwoopwoop and Facebook at WOOPLife.

To learn more about the Thrive Alive festival visit www.thrivealivefest.com and follow them on Instagram @thrivealivefest and Facebook at Thrive Alive Vegan Fest.

Join the WOOP Life WhatsApp group: https://chat.whatsapp.com/JSFc4FOG8EUBLdZW2LmA42.

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#19: This week, Liz and Bryce The Third dive into a very special and personal conversation about music, something that has always been close to Bryce's heart. For Bryce, music is an art form for self-expression, and it has helped him build a relationship with himself. When he got sober, Bryce thought he might never be able to experience music again — let alone create it. However, in recovery Bryce has created his own home within music, listening and creating the way he wants to.

Liz also touches on her own relationship with music, noting how much like Bryce, music allows her to express her emotions in a safe, cathartic way — freeing the feelings that feel 'stuck.' Tune in to hear more about Bryce's journey, from his early inspiration by Eminem to rediscovering his love for music with his community in rehab, and now to sharing his artwork with the world.

Check out Bryce's latest EP For Colder Weather streaming now: https://ffm.to/fcw

or support by purchasing a digital copy through EVEN or Bandcamp

Learn more about Bryce's music on his website: www.brycethethird.com/music.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

This resource was shared by Tiffany: If you are a woman in need of support in the New Hampshire or Massachusetts area, Jasmine Grace is an organization that may be able to help. You can learn more at their website: https://www.jasminegrace.org/

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement from The Phoenix
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#18: Chris Clemens (he/him) is a born-and-raised resident of Rochester, New York, who got sober just one month before his 17th birthday in May 1996. For many years in early recovery Chris followed a practice of total abstinence. But nearly 30 years later, his approach to recovery has evolved. Today, Chris is a passionate advocate for non-alcoholic beers and mocktails. While he acknowledges this path isn't for everyone, he's created nonROCaholic, a blog dedicated to helping his local community discover non-alcoholic options.

In this episode, Bryce The Third and Liz sit down with Chris to discuss his journey — from getting sober at a young age to how sobriety stuck over the years. We also explore his motivation behind creating nonROCaholic, the power of "trying it on" for easing into behavioral changes, and the rise of sober curious people and mocktails in today's culture.

Check out www.nonrocaholic.com for your guide on where to find tasty mocktails, nonalcoholic beer, juices, sodas, and more in The Finger Lakes Region of New York. You can find them on Instagram @nonrocaholic and Facebook at Nonrocaholic.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

This resource was shared by Tiffany: If you are a woman in need of support in the New Hampshire or Massachusetts area, Jasmine Grace is an organization that may be able to help. You can learn more at their website: https://www.jasminegrace.org/

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement from The Phoenix
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#17: Amanda Uphoff (she/her) is a woman living in long-term recovery from anorexia and alcohol use disorder. She serves as the Chief of Staff at Recovery.com, is a certified yoga teacher, and mentors women in early recovery. Amanda believes in the possibility of recovery for everyone and is deeply committed to reaching out her hand to those still struggling, helping them find their own path. She lives in Madison, Wisconsin, where she's the proud mother of two amazing humans.

In the episode, Bryce The Third and Liz sit down with Amanda to discuss her personal recovery journey, how her relationship with yoga has evolved, and how her practice has helped her work through her healing. They dive into topics such as parenthood, the power of finding community—even if it’s just one person—and the other tools that have helped Amanda peel back her masks to live more authentically.

Check out Recovery.com to help find the best path to recovery through their comprehensive network of treatment providers worldwide. You can find them on LinkedIn at www.linkedin.com/company/recoverydotcom.

To learn more about Amanda, visit her LinkedIn page at www.linkedin.com/in/amandauphoff.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

This resource was shared by Tiffany: If you are a woman in need of support in the New Hampshire or Massachusetts area, Jasmine Grace is an organization that may be able to help. You can learn more at their website: https://www.jasminegrace.org/

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement from The Phoenix
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#16: Shimi is the founder and executive director of HoliHub, a Denver-based non-profit dedicated to holistic recovery. As an adolescent, Shimi fell into a struggle with addiction that took over a decade of his life. His addiction caused him to lose his community and fracture his relationships with his family and himself. He dropped out of high school, lost a scholarship to a prestigious law school, and hit rock bottom — yet his story didn’t end there.

With determination and the support of his family, Shimi turned his life around, choosing to embark on a journey of sobriety and recovery. Now, he lives a fulfilling life dedicated to helping others navigate their own recovery journeys. Through HoliHub, he combines his personal experience, passion for holistic healing, and his deep commitment to be of service.

Tune in to hear Shimi's powerful story as we discuss his path to recovery, how he maintains balance, and what led him to create HoliHub to help others heal.

To learn more about HoliHub check out their website at www.holihub.org and find them on Instagram @holihub.life and Facebook at Holihub.

Check out the HoliHub Space on The Phoenix Mobile App at https://links.thephoenix.org/K3Ph7rEE8Pb.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

This resource was shared by Tiffany: If you are a woman in need of support in the New Hampshire or Massachusetts area, Jasmine Grace is an organization that may be able to help. You can learn more at their website: https://www.jasminegrace.org/

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement from The Phoenix

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#15: Melissa Pagan (she/her) is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT) with a master’s degree in Marriage and Family Therapy. She specializes in a range of therapeutic approaches, with an expertise in behavioral health, PTSD care, and treating substance use disorders alongside co-occurring mental health conditions.

Having witnessed firsthand the vital role of family support and the need for family work in the therapeutic processes, Melissa has devoted her career to helping families navigate the complexities of addiction recovery. In this episode, we dive into Melissa's personal journey as a supporter to her loved ones. We discuss her approach to teaching kids vulnerability, the importance of setting and maintaining boundaries, and how she takes care of herself so she can show up fully for others.

Visit https://mountainside.com/ to learn more and check out their resources page at https://mountainside.com/resources.

Find Mountainside Treatment on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/company/mountainsidetreatment/ and Instagram at @mountainside.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

This resource was shared by Tiffany: If you are a woman in need of support in the New Hampshire or Massachusetts area, Jasmine Grace is an organization that may be able to help. You can learn more at their website: https://www.jasminegrace.org/

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement from The Phoenix
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#14: This week Liz and Bryce The Third are joined by Rob Baumgartner (he/him), a long-time team member, volunteer, and staff member with The Phoenix. Rob first joined The Phoenix in 2007, when the newly-formed organization had about 160 members. Today, he serves as the Regional Manager for the Mountains & Plains states.

For Rob, his climbing journey and recovery journey are deeply intertwined. In both, people play an essential role — whether it's challenging ourselves to take on what feels unachievable, cultivating trust with ourselves and our partners, or empowering others to choose the right path for them. Rob shares how these two paths are intrinsically linked, emphasizing the power of choice, community, and the importance of supporting others. Tune into the episode to learn more about Rob, as we discuss his recovery journey and more.

Check out Season 1 Episode 12 with Billy & Liz and hear from the perspective of a supporter: https://open.spotify.com/episode/33WPOCQ4jSofuWqELfRWPC?si=P0glXv7MR9euKt3Kmsgqsg.

Check out the limited holiday collection at ThePhoenix.org/shop.

Click here to join the Rise Recover Live Podcast Space to keep up with all things Podcast: https://links.thephoenix.org/uy4urLJKjNb.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

This resource was shared by Tiffany: If you are a woman in need of support in the New Hampshire or Massachusetts area, Jasmine Grace is an organization that may be able to help. You can learn more at their website: https://www.jasminegrace.org/

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix

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#13: This week, Liz and Bryce The Third reflect on the evolution of their relationships with the holidays and check in on how they're both feeling this season.

For Liz, this holiday season feels different from years past—stirring up both joy and grief, and reminding her that recovery is an ongoing, non-linear journey. While intense feelings and memories have surfaced, she’s learning to hold both the joy and the grief, allowing herself to experience them safely and work through them.

Bryce shares how his relationship with holidays has shifted through his own recovery, and how he's reached a place where he shows up for celebrations how he wants to. Through cultivating a relationship with himself, he's learned how to navigate these big holidays, which in turn strengthened his relationships with his friends and family.

Tune in to hear the conversation between Bryce The Third and Liz. And a reminder from your hosts this holiday season: your feelings are valid, we relate to you, and we are so glad you're here.

Check out Bryce's music on Bandcamp: https://brycethethird.bandcamp.com/music. You can also learn more at https://www.brycethethird.com/music.

Check out the limited holiday collection at ThePhoenix.org/shop.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix

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#12: This week, Liz is joined by Kevin Beaufrand (he/him), found of Soberflex and a person in recovery. Kevin shares his story of active addiction and his journey to find sobriety and recovery. From the age of thirteen to thirty-one years old, active addiction took hold of Kevin's life. In May 2019, Kevin decided enough was enough. He made the pivotal decision to change his life and chose to become 'obsessed' with wellness and health. After walking down this path to recovery, Kevin has made it his North Star help other folks do the same.

Check out the conversation to learn more about Kevin as we discuss his story and more, including:

Confronting the 'saboteur' voice in his mind that tempted him to stray from his sobriety — and how he learned to control and live with it.
How he found his North Star and the drive to live a holistic healthy lifestyle that sustains his sobriety.
Why after a year into sobriety he was tempted to try drinking in moderation, and how his community supported him to stay sober.
The mission behind Soberflex, and the special meaning behind the organization's name.

Join the Soberflex community at https://www.skool.com/soberflexfree/about and check out their YouTube channel at https://www.youtube.com/@soberflexofficial.

Join the Soberflex Space in The Phoenix Mobile App: ‎ https://links.thephoenix.org/N5r0U3NAnPb.

Find Kevin on Instagram at @kevinbeaufrand and on Facebook at Kevin Beaufrand.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix
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#11: This week, Liz and Bryce The Third are joined by David Patton, PhD, Associate Professor of Criminology at the University of Derby's Social, Cultural and Legal Research Centre. His work concentrates on amplifying the often-marginalized voices of folks in recovery, particularly in academic settings. At New Central Media, his mission is to challenge traditional knowledge structures, advocating that lived experience is as valid as, or more than, academic knowledge, particularly in substance use disorder and recovery.

Tune into the episode to hear more from Dr Patton, including:

Why he founded New Central Media and why he emphasizes that stories are knowledge.
How societal-imposed narratives about his background and upbringing impacted his identity and aspirations, and how he shed these notions.
The fateful daydream he had at age 13 during summer holiday that set him on a new path.

Check our Dr Patton's website at drdavidpatton.co.uk.

To learn more about New Central Media, visit their webpage: https://www.drdavidpatton.co.uk/new-central-media.

Follow Dr Patton on X at @drdavidpatton and follow him on Instagram @drdavidpatton

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

This resource was shared by Tiffany: If you are a woman in need of support in the New Hampshire or Massachusetts area, Jasmine Grace is an organization that may be able to help. You can learn more at their website: https://www.jasminegrace.org/

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix

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#10: This week Liz and Bryce The Third are joined by Jesse Carrajat (he/him), Host of the Sober Strength podcast and Founder of Altum Fitness. Jesse opens up about his own recovery, the wisdom he's learned throughout the journey, and how he redefines sobriety. He discusses his acceptance of life's unpredictability and how he has learned to intentionally make space to sit and reflect.

Tune in to the episode as we delve into Jesse's story, his mission to support fellow veterans, and how he's working to reduce the stigma surrounding mental heath challenges in the veteran community.

Check out Altum Fitness at www.altumfitness.com.

Listen to the Sober Strength Podcast at https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sober-strength/id1720379887 and follow them on Instagram @soberstrengthpodcast.

Check out episode #104 with Brian Sims, the Founder & National Director of Project Rebirth: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0T5NxiXJHDn7gU2JkkjgjM?si=WrWYWoavSzy1I-L2jnpSGA.

To learn more about Project Rebirth, visit their space in the Phoenix Mobile App ‎at https://links.thephoenix.org/e179CEyo0Ob ‎ and check out their Instagram @_projectrebirth_

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix

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#9: This week on Rise Recover Live, Liz and Bryce The Third team up for a candid and thought-provoking episode about navigating life’s seasons, embracing intentional living, and mastering the art of giving yourself grace.

Liz opens up about her journey of breaking free from society’s timelines. After years of struggling with the pressure to hit certain milestones, she’s entered a new chapter in her 40s where she’s discovered the freedom of trusting her own path in recovery.

Bryce shares how recovery redefined his view of time and growth. Over the past decade, he’s learned to turn life’s mistakes into powerful lessons, embracing the idea that every experience—good or bad—is a chance to grow.

This is more than just a conversation—it’s an invitation to reflect, live fully, and let go of the “shoulds” that hold you back. Tune in and then join the conversation in the Phoenix Mobile App’s Podcast Space to share what resonates most with you!

Click here to join the Rise Recover Live Podcast Space to keep up with all things Podcast: https://links.thephoenix.org/uy4urLJKjNb ‎

Check out the limited holiday collection at ThePhoenix.org/shop
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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

This resource was shared by Tiffany: If you are a woman in need of support in the New Hampshire or Massachusetts area, Jasmine Grace is an organization that may be able to help. You can learn more at their website: https://www.jasminegrace.org/

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix

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#8: Josh Lovelace (he/him) is a proud work in progress: whether it’s quitting drinking to be more present for his kids, quelling panic attacks before stepping on stage, or just figuring out what he believes after a childhood of being told that there’s only one way to pray. Through all this turmoil, he’s had his touchstones, his shelters: loved ones, friends, and, of course, music.

Born and raised in Knoxville, Tennessee, Josh — who also plays keys and sings in South Carolina rock band NEEDTOBREATHE — grew up making music. He discovered early on in life that writing music was his escape, his therapy, and also his best friend -- the thing that has always been there when he needs it.

Check out the episode with Josh to learn more about his journey with sobriety, his relationship with music & touring, and more!

Visit Josh's official bio page HERE and visit his website at www.joshlovelacemusic.com.

Listen to Josh's new album 'Shelters' here: https://ffm.to/joshlovelace-shelters.

Download his song 'Miracles' here: https://ffm.to/joshlovelace-miracles and check out the video on YouTube: https://youtu.be/ak3qGAQ1M5U?si=K6X0ll3M8HrwMhM0.

Listen to ‘I Stopped Drinking Yesterday’ here: https://ffm.to/joshlovelace-istoppeddrinkingyesterday.

Follow Josh on Instagram @joshlovelace and check out his Facebook page at Josh Lovelace Music.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix

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#7: Stephen McCorry is recovery coach, author, father of two sons, and person in recovery from Lansing, Michigan. Recently while on the phone chatting with a friend in his car, something clicked in Stephen's mind. What he affectionately calls a 'moment of lucidity,' Stephen had the realization and appreciation of how far he had come in his life. It was an epiphany that he had the ability to meaningfully contribute to a conversation and speak life to folks that need it. Six years ago, this was not the case.

Check out the conversation to hear Stephen's story of active addiction and journey to find recovery, and learn what changed in the six years that now allows him to show up with intention everyday. We discuss this and more, including:

His journey with faith in prison and when he was "the lowest he will ever be."
Stephen's realization that the only way he would be happy is by doing the things he is supposed to do, not the things he wants to do.
How fatherhood has shaped his life's purpose and taught him the importance of being a good teacher and encourager.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

This resource was shared by Tiffany: If you are a woman in need of support in the New Hampshire or Massachusetts area, Jasmine Grace is an organization that may be able to help. You can learn more at their website: https://www.jasminegrace.org/

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix

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#6: This week Liz and Bryce The Third tapped into the Podcast Space on the Phoenix Mobile App, inviting the podcast community to ask questions and guide this episode's conversation. From sharing about their summers to what made both of them seek out recovery and what steps they take to show up for life's challenges, Liz and Bryce share their thoughts and parts of their own stories.

Check out the episode to learn more about our hosts and their own recovery journeys. They discuss this and more, including:

Remembering 'you are only human,' and how this freeing idea became a foundational part of Liz's recovery.
How taking care of your own recovery is the greatest gift you can give to the world, the community, and the people who love you.
'Phoenix moments' and the shift in recovery when you realize you have things to share and something to offer.
How showing up in the embodiment of your fullest potential is a service in itself.

Download the Phoenix App and join the Rise Recover Live Podcast Space to keep up with all things Podcast: https://links.thephoenix.org/uy4urLJKjNb ‎

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

This resource was shared by Tiffany: If you are a woman in need of support in the New Hampshire or Massachusetts area, Jasmine Grace is an organization that may be able to help. You can learn more at their website: https://www.jasminegrace.org/

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix

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#5: This week, Liz and Bryce The Third sit down with Randall Hall (he/him), the former President of Recovery Dharma Global and SMART Recovery Facilitator. They dive into Randall's recovery story and the different paths he practiced before finding the pathway that's right for him.

For Randall, having choices empowers us, and recovery is not a one-size-fit-all. At the root of all these different pathways is community, self-reflection, and the idea that helping others helps ourselves. His words of wisdom: try different programs, keep an open mind, and find that unique path that resonates with you.

Learn more about Recovery Dharma and SMART Recovery by visiting their websites at recoverydharma.org and smartrecovery.org.

Follow Randall on Instagram @randallwesleyhall

Check out the Recovery Dharma Space in the Phoenix Mobile App here: https://links.thephoenix.org/BmV6lujQ2Nb ‎

Explore the SMART Recovery Space in the Phoenix Mobile App here: https://links.thephoenix.org/Os4OXMH6TNb ‎

Check out Ben's Friends at bensfriendshope.com to find a sober community for hospitality and Food & Beverage workers.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

This resource was shared by Tiffany: If you are a woman in need of support in the New Hampshire or Massachusetts area, Jasmine Grace is an organization that may be able to help. You can learn more at their website: https://www.jasminegrace.org/

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix.

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#4: This week Liz and Bryce sit down for a solo episode, exploring what it means to take up space and be willing to show up as ourselves. Liz emphasizes the various versions of herself that shine through depending on the situation. While she has different sides, they all make up her authentic self and the skill is to bring them out at the right time.

For Bryce, it is easier to show up in spaces if it tied to something bigger than him and serves as a way to contribute to the community. He's able to show up with energy and authenticity if it means someone else will benefit. Tune into the episode to hear more of their conversation, including:

Why Liz prefers to uplift stories from the recovery community as opposed to record solo episodes.
Bryce's take on taking up space on the podcast: "someone will hear you talk and really relate and find community by you being yourself."
How to be a leaders in a space, looking at the example of Scott Strode and Jacki Hillios.

Check out Phoenix Co-Founder Scott Strode's book Rise. Recover. Thrive. and pre-order HERE.

Download the Phoenix App and join the Rise Recover Live Podcast Space to keep up with all things Podcast: https://links.thephoenix.org/uy4urLJKjNb ‎

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

This resource was shared by Tiffany: If you are a woman in need of support in the New Hampshire or Massachusetts area, Jasmine Grace is an organization that may be able to help. You can learn more at their website: https://www.jasminegrace.org/

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix.

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#3: Sacha Goolsby (she/her) found recovery during the Covid-19 lockdown. Although she had known for awhile she wanted to end her dependency on alcohol, Sacha decided to prioritize sobriety after Halloween 2020 and hasn't looked back ever since. Within the confines of her home, Sacha spent her evenings practicing yoga and connecting with her virtual community, in her words: "getting clean on the screen."

Tune into the episode to hear more of Sacha's story, including:

How finding an online recovery community and virtual classes were the right step for her, especially in the beginning.
The importance of having a network of friends in recovery -- both to support you and hold you accountable.
How acupuncture helped kickstart Sacha's recovery and is now a way she gives back to her community.
How her sobriety has helped shape her kids' views on alcohol and underage drinking.

Follow Sacha on Instagram @sacha_rae and check out Sacred Soulbriety @sacred_soulbriety

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#2: This week Liz and Bryce sit down for a conversation exploring identity, their approaches to routines and life, and how non-linear this whole journey is. From working through anxiety to shaking up who we think we are, recovery gave both Liz and Bryce the space and time to evolve, question and grow. Check out the episode to dive into conversation on this and more, including:

Learning to enjoy the journey and not just focus on the end, something Liz is practicing while doing her graduate degree in Clinical Mental Health Counseling.
Methods Liz has learned to harness control over her anxiety, and how if she knows what's coming she can help herself out of it.
How sobriety allowed Bryce to evolve into someone new and gave him space to have a lot of restarts and softness.
How non-linear the whole process is - and Bryce and Liz are perfect examples of this.

Download the Phoenix App and join the Rise Recover Live Podcast Space to keep up with all things Podcast: https://links.thephoenix.org/uy4urLJKjNb ‎

Become a Podcast Ambassador Volunteer! To learn more and to apply, follow this link: https://form.asana.com/?k=MvokXMx-NgNGbAJlDdqMBw&d=1142909614290943.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

This resource was shared by Tiffany: If you are a woman in need of support in the New Hampshire or Massachusetts area, Jasmine Grace is an organization that may be able to help. You can learn more at their website: https://www.jasminegrace.org/

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix.
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#1: Welcome to Season 2 of the Rise Recover Live Podcast! Liz McKean and Bryce III are back for a brand new season of storytelling and building real life connection and community. Hear from Bryce and Liz on what they have been up to since Season 1 and how the seasons have changed for them -- both in life and in recovery.

With this new beginning, Liz and Bryce reflect on the growth and evolution of their relationship as co-hosts & friends, and how this shows up when creating a space for guests and listeners. This season you'll hear new and old as we dive into stories from all pathways of recovery. Whether you hear your story reflected in someone else's or you hear something that makes you look at others with more compassion, there is something for everyone and we are so glad you're here!

Download the Phoenix App and join the Rise Recover Live Podcast Space to keep up with all things Podcast: https://links.thephoenix.org/uy4urLJKjNb ‎

Become a Podcast Ambassador Volunteer! To learn more and to apply, follow this link: https://form.asana.com/?k=MvokXMx-NgNGbAJlDdqMBw&d=1142909614290943.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

This resource was shared by Tiffany: If you are a woman in need of support in the New Hampshire or Massachusetts area, Jasmine Grace is an organization that may be able to help. You can learn more at their website: https://www.jasminegrace.org/

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix.
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#130: This week we revisit episode #21 with Bryce and Liz. This honest and unfiltered conversation between two friends might not have happened if Bryce hadn't spontaneously hit "record". As a result, today's show is an unfiltered, "fly on the wall" perspective of Bryce and Liz chatting about dating and relationships in sobriety.

Bryce shares his experience as a single man in recovery; discussing what dating was like before he learned to set and maintain personal boundaries, and some of the wisdom he implements now. And as someone who was married before getting sober (check out Episode 129 to meet her husband Billy), Liz discovers an uncomfortable truth about herself, and a "complicated relationship with gratitude."
Become a Podcast Ambassador Volunteer! To learn more and to apply, follow this link: https://form.asana.com/?k=MvokXMx-NgNGbAJlDdqMBw&d=1142909614290943.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

This resource was shared by Tiffany: If you are a woman in need of support in the New Hampshire or Massachusetts area, Jasmine Grace is an organization that may be able to help. You can learn more at their website: https://www.jasminegrace.org/

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix.
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#129: This week we revisit episode #34 with Andy Short. Andy joined us to break down the many stories that make up his life and recovery. With humor and wisdom, he shares the journey that led to his recovery... and the wild ride that came next. We discuss his story and more, including:

Content Warning: Discussion of suicidal ideation (thoughts of suicide)

How comparison was Andy’s first drug.
We hear about love and loss: how his mom supported him through many chapters of his story, and her words that changed the course of his life.
When he asked , "Do you want to hear The Gay Story?” we of COURSE said yes.... and you may be surprised to learn this story occurred several years into recovery.
And how Andy’s recovery community supported him through times that seemed impossible to survive, and why we show up for one another.

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#128: This week we revisit an extra special episode featuring the story of a supporter of recovery, who also happens to be Liz's biggest supporter: her husband Billy. Billy and Liz take us through their journey as a couple during the hardest years of her alcohol addiction, and some of the challenges that arose in recovery.

This episode is especially for you if you have loved someone who struggles with substance use. However, we want to stress that every story is different. If you or a loved one is experiencing addiction and your relationship looks different from what we hear about today; your experience is just as valid, and your physical and emotional safety are the highest priority.

To connect with Liz follow her on Instagram @starfishyoga

Become a Podcast Ambassador Volunteer! To learn more and to apply, follow this link: https://form.asana.com/?k=MvokXMx-NgNGbAJlDdqMBw&d=1142909614290943.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

This resource was shared by Tiffany: If you are a woman in need of support in the New Hampshire or Massachusetts area, Jasmine Grace is an organization that may be able to help. You can learn more at their website: https://www.jasminegrace.org/

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix.
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#127: Alison Jones Webb found her home in the recovery community through a career in public health. Her work related to prevention, treatment, and harm reduction introduced her to folks in recovery and their incredible stories, ultimately inspiring her to write “Recovery Allies: How to Support Addiction Recovery and Build Recovery-Friendly Communities".

Check out the episode to hear more from Alison, including:

The power of storytelling in creating connections, fighting stigma, & building community; and how allies can keep the conversation going.
Who is part of the recovery community, and the importance for those spaces to include us all.
The opportunities for allies to make a "happy connection" around recovery which can help change public perspective.

To connect with Alison, visit alisonjoneswebb.com

Buy Alison's book! Find it here: https://alisonjoneswebb.com/recovery-...

Become a Podcast Ambassador Volunteer! To learn more and to apply, follow this link: https://form.asana.com/?k=MvokXMx-NgNGbAJlDdqMBw&d=1142909614290943.

If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

This resource was shared by Tiffany: If you are a woman in need of support in the New Hampshire or Massachusetts area, Jasmine Grace is an organization that may be able to help. You can learn more at their website: https://www.jasminegrace.org/

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#126: This week we revisit one of the first episodes of the Rise Recover Live Podcast: Episode #9 with Gavin Young. As someone who got sober in his 20s, Gavin shares all the lessons he still had to learn after he put the drink down. From facing the pain that substances had covered up, to learning that sobriety is only one facet of recovery -- he had a lot of growing and work to do.

Tap into the conversation as we traverse multiple topics, including fatherhood, trauma, varying perceptions and experiences of 12 step programs, and more.

To connect with Gavin, follow him on Instagram @gavinfromphilly

Become a Podcast Ambassador Volunteer! To learn more and to apply, follow this link: https://form.asana.com/?k=MvokXMx-NgNGbAJlDdqMBw&d=1142909614290943.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

This resource was shared by Tiffany: If you are a woman in need of support in the New Hampshire or Massachusetts area, Jasmine Grace is an organization that may be able to help. You can learn more at their website: https://www.jasminegrace.org/

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix.
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#125: This week we revisit episode #22 with healer and a person in recovery, Kelvin Young. After growing up in an environment that encouraged suppressing emotions, Kelvin's first experience with sound healing was "a sip of healing in a sea of chaos." He knew if he could feel that level of peace while behind bars, then the possibilities would be endless upon his release from incarceration. So he became a sound healer. After finding freedom within himself, Kelvin now reaches out his hand to others and breaks down the stigma within and about BIPOC communities.

Check out the episode to learn more about Kelvin as he shares his story and more, including:

The beautiful practice of sound healing and other holistic tools.
How media portrayal of Black men influenced racial trauma, addiction and incarceration.
Being of service, and how safe healing spaces can break misconceptions.

Connect with Kelvin on Instagram @thesobersoundhealer and on his website www.soulcarelovellc.com.

Find countless free sound healing recordings simply by searching YouTube for "Sound Healing."

Become a Podcast Ambassador Volunteer! To learn more and to apply, follow this link: https://form.asana.com/?k=MvokXMx-NgNGbAJlDdqMBw&d=1142909614290943.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

This resource was shared by Tiffany: If you are a woman in need of support in the New Hampshire or Massachusetts area, Jasmine Grace is an organization that may be able to help. You can learn more at their website: https://www.jasminegrace.org/

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix.

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#124: At 19 years old Kaley Jones’ (she/her) life came to a crossroads: on one path, she could move to Mexico and continue a life that was gripped by substance use disorder. Alternatively, she could begin the long and arduous journey of sobriety; an existence that not only seemed impossible, but one she didn’t think she wanted. Over 10 years later, Kaley says starting recovery was stepping into the fullest form of her human existence.

Check out the episode as we hear Kaley's recovery journey and more, including:

The importance of community in early sobriety.
Kaley’s first introduction to The Phoenix after leaving the safety of her treatment center.
Leaning into recovery and what life now has to offer her.

You can hear more of Kaley's story at the links below:

Stand Together Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perspectives-sober-stigma/id1639125207?i=1000579441913

Phoenix Moab Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZwV5Mfo02E&t=0s

Become a Podcast Ambassador Volunteer! To learn more and to apply, follow this link: https://form.asana.com/?k=MvokXMx-NgNGbAJlDdqMBw&d=1142909614290943.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

This resource was shared by Tiffany: If you are a woman in need of support in the New Hampshire or Massachusetts area, Jasmine Grace is an organization that may be able to help. You can learn more at their website: https://www.jasminegrace.org/

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix.

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#123: This week we revisit the conversation with Tiffany Foster (she/her). Tiffany is a proud woman in recovery, former substance abuse counselor, and newly CFL2 and Senior Program manager. Wisely advised in the infancy of her recovery to “speak even if your voice shakes,” Tiffany describes some of the darkest moments of her addiction. Against all odds, Tiffany built a life that she never expected to live. Check out the episode to hear more from Tiffany, including:

The pain of living on the street, being in and out of institutional facilities, and over 100 attempts at treatment.
The moment she realized that she wanted to live, and the enormity of that single thought.
The organizations and people who opened their arms to her and how much it meant to be seen.

"Where there is breath, there is hope. You are not broken." Share this episode with someone who might need to hear it today.

Become a Podcast Ambassador Volunteer! To learn more and to apply, follow this link: https://form.asana.com/?k=MvokXMx-NgNGbAJlDdqMBw&d=1142909614290943.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

This resource was shared by Tiffany: If you are a woman in need of support in the New Hampshire or Massachusetts area, Jasmine Grace is an organization that may be able to help. You can learn more at their website: https://www.jasminegrace.org/

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix.

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#122: Joie Gyondla (she/her) is a queer, sober, activist and advocate that works to normalize folks in the world that are often times "othered." She uses her own lived experiences to help give voice to those that sometimes don't know how, or aren't given the chance to speak up. Tune into the episode to hear Joie's story and more, including:

The turning point in her recovery when she allowed herself to live authentically and confront years of internalized transphobia.
Non-linear recovery, and why Joie doesn't often share her sobriety date.
How Joie's transition with her gender identity unlocked something in her recovery that she had been missing the whole time.
The significance in being able to see yourself in recovery spaces and see people in the community who look like you.

To learn more about Joie, follow her on Instagram @mynewsoul

Check out translegislation.com, an independent research organization tracking bills that impact trans and gender-diverse folks across the United States.

Become a Podcast Ambassador Volunteer! To learn more and to apply, follow this link: https://form.asana.com/?k=MvokXMx-NgNGbAJlDdqMBw&d=1142909614290943.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST
*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#121: This week we revisit episode #62 with Don Fertman (he/him). Don is the former Chief Development Officer of Subway, as well as Board Chair Emeritus of The Phoenix and current member of The Phoenix Impact Board. When Don first got sober, the last thing he wanted to do was allow people to know his story. Now decades into recovery, he proudly and candidly speaks to his journey and encourages others to share their own. Tune into the episode to hear from Don, as he shares his story and more, including:

The image of a jelly donut slowly sliding down the wall... and how this represented his life while in active addiction.
How sharing his story on national television helped others find recovery and eventually connected Don with the founder of The Phoenix, Scott Strode.
Don's journey with music, from a warped relationship due to substance use disorder to picking back up a guitar years later with sober friends.

To learn more about Don, check out this video: https://youtu.be/zkJLf-FlAyY?si=F1W8gENr9AjaD9qg

Check out Recovery Branches, an organization Don co-founded: https://www.recoverybranches.org/

Check out Brave Enough to Fail, another organization that Don is involved with: https://www.braveenoughtofail.org/

Read "Subs & Drugs & Rock & Roll, Part 1: With a Little Help From My Friends" : https://www.allsober.com/subs-drugs-rock-n-roll-part-1-don-fertman/

Become a Podcast Ambassador Volunteer! To learn more and to apply, follow this link: https://form.asana.com/?k=MvokXMx-NgNGbAJlDdqMBw&d=1142909614290943.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST
*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#120: This week we revisit episode number #44 with the incredible Nick Wells. When Nick went to prison, he had no reason to think he would see freedom again in his lifetime. With 14 years of addiction and a 60-year sentence looming ahead, his life seemed to be over. After being granted clemency 14 years into incarceration, Nick is more dedicated than ever to continuing the work he started on the inside. Tune into the episode to hear Nick's story of redemption, recovery and more:

The role that fitness played in Nick’s recovery from substance use, and how he inspired others to walk the same path.
Why he took a chance on training those deemed 'un-saveable,' proving everyone who doubted him wrong.
How a group of guys doing CrossFit workouts in prison started a groundbreaking organization called RF2.

To learn more & support Redemption Road, visit the website at https://www.rf2.org/ or email nick@rft.org.

You can also connect on Facebook or Instagram:

https://www.facebook.com/RedemptionRoadCrossfit ,
https://www.instagram.com/redemptionroadcrossfit/

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#119: As Liz and Bryce gear up for Season 2 of the Podcast, we are taking a brief hiatus from recording new podcast episodes. In the interim, we've chosen some of our favorite episodes to re-share with you. Check out episode #30 with Sophie Lyons to hear her story and learn something you didn't catch the first time around.

*Please note in this episode there is mention of specific aspects of eating disorders. If this type of conversation feels unsafe for you, it is always ok to skip a week, or have a trusted friend pre-listen before you dive in.

Sophie a yoga teacher, queer person in recovery, and passionate advocate for her community. We touch on topics close to Sophie's heart, including:

How substance use disorder and eating disorder recovery are intricately connected.
What it was like to join recovery groups as a young person, and how not hitting a traditional "rock bottom" made her question her place there.
How being open about who she is can empower and break down stigma for others in the LGBTQIA+ community.

Become a Podcast Ambassador Volunteer! To learn more and to apply, follow this link: https://form.asana.com/?k=MvokXMx-NgNGbAJlDdqMBw&d=1142909614290943.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

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#118: As Liz and Bryce wrap up Season 1 of the Rise Recover Live Podcast, what better topic to discuss than rest! Taking a moment to pause allows us to connect back to our "why" and our creativity. Although this can be daunting when you're in a groove, it's vital to breathe and reset. Tune into the episode to hear the conversation, including:

Why Liz and Bryce are taking a hiatus from recording new episodes, and what to expect in the interim.
Debunking the idea that we have to 'earn' rest or that we need to rest so we can be more productive.
Liz's relationship with sleep in recovery, and how she had to completely rebuild her routine and learn new habits.
How just like there are multiple seasons to recovery, there are multiple seasons of the Podcast, and Liz and Bryce can't wait to come back with new ways of contributing to the space.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

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#117: Andre Peart is the CEO of Untapped Solutions, a community-driven network empowering folks who are formerly incarcerated, homeless, or from marginalized communities. The digital platform champions each individual's potential and strengths, creating pathways for professional and personal growth. Tune into the conversation to learn more about Andre and the impactful work of Untapped Solutions and more, including:

Andre's own re-entry experience after being incarcerated for five and a half years, and how this motivated him to create his own organization.
Recognizing transferable skills: Andre was always ambitious and solution-oriented, he was just using his strengths for the wrong outcomes.
How he takes care of himself, including fitness, therapy, and keeping a great system of friends and family surrounding him.
What's next for Untapped Solutions and how the organization is expanding its reach.

Check out Untapped Solutions at Untappedsolutions.io and download the app at app.untappedsolutions.io.

Check out Rise Recover Live episode #44 with Nick Wells: https://open.spotify.com/episode/74yBI5hY5M2nHDyCq7pVHS?si=13ztA_vfSRWRmrr6akkIHA.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

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#116: When Tom Coyne (he/him) got sober 12 years ago, he thought he would never be able to play golf again. As a sport that revolves quite a bit around alcohol, he thought that if he quit drinking then he would have to walk away from the fairway too. However, in recovery Tom found a deeper love and appreciation for the sport. Now golf is at the center of his recovery and his network is made up of sober golfers and friends. Tune into the episode to hear from Tom as he discusses his golf, his recovery journey and more, including:

Why adding recovery to your life is like adding salt to your cooking: it brings out flavors you didn't even know were there.
Traveling as a sober person, specifically on work trips, and the boundaries he puts in place to set himself up for success.
His second book which he wrote about golf in Scotland and why he decided to talk about the sobriety.
Carving out a slice of home in the Catskills where he can share the love of the sport with others.

To learn more about Tom, visit his website at tomcoyne.com.

Follow Tom on Instagram @coynewriter and on Twitter @coynewriter.

Check out Tom's golf course, the Sullivan County Golf Club in Liberty, New York at sullivancountygolf.com.

Check out the mission-driven golf club Old Barnwell in Aiken County, South Carolina at oldbarnwell.com.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

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#115: Bryan Wempen (he/him) is an acclaimed author and speaker, fearlessly redefining normal and inspiring personal growth. With his new groundbreaking book, "F**K My Demons Redefining Normal," Bryan challenges stigmas, empowering audiences to embrace imperfections and reclaim their power. Tune into the episode to hear the conversation with Bryan as we touch on his recovery journey and more, including:

What happens when the main focus becomes chasing a feeling and our curiosity and drive for self-discovery fall by the wayside.
Bryan's first exposure to recovery meetings while living in Atlanta. Although he was years away from recovery, these spaces became the only place he felt calm, connected, and above all happy.
The day that something clicked and he gave himself permission to phone a friend and ask for help.
Moments when Bryan heard his story in other people's and knew that he didn't have to navigate this alone.

To learn more about Bryan and his three books, check out his website at bryanwempen.com.

Find Bryan on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryanwempen/.

Follow Bryan on Twitter at https://twitter.com/bryanwempen.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

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#114: Casey Kehoe (she/her) is a CrossFit Coach and Phoenix Volunteer from Philadelphia. As someone who has been doing CrossFit for 8 years, Casey knows the importance of community. Now with 15 months of sobriety under her belt, the notion of community has taken on a deeper meaning. Tune into the episode to hear Casey's story of resiliency, accountability and more, including:

Reframing how we view accountability from something negative and laborious to positive and community-building.
Building a relationship with ourselves so that we are able to show up for the tough situations that inevitably pop up in life.
Casey's exercise of dropping a pebble in a vase for every day sober, giving herself the visual of how far she had come.

Follow Casey on Instagram @Caseyk121 and check out the Phoenix Philadelphia @phillysoberevents.

Check out the non-profit Eluna, an organization supporting children and families impacted by grief or addiction. Visit their website at elunanetwork.org.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

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#113: Taylor Williams (he/him) is a full time CrossFit and weightlifting coach, as well as a podcast host and a person in recovery. As someone who came of age during the height of the Opioid epidemic, substance use disorder was highly prevalent and normalized in his circle. What felt like small decisions led to bigger consequences and after a harrowing conversation with his mom, Taylor decided to change his trajectory. He went back to school and joined a CrossFit gym, finding friends that became like family. Tune into the episode to learn about Taylor and hear his story, including:

Taylor's favorite part of recovery: being surrounded by folks whose stories sound just like his, and now being able to amplify those stories on his podcast.
Conscious moments when he questioned "what am I doing?" and how in those moments thoughts of recovery slowly started to kick in.
How CrossFit helped him to become the person he always wanted to be.
Finding joy in the mundane and building a life you love even when it's boring.

Follow Taylor on Instagram @tdakid91 and @hungrydogbarbell.

Check out his podcast the Hungry Dog Barbell Podcast, available on all podcast players!

Check out the Hungry Dog Barbell website at https://hungry-doghouse.square.site/.

Check out Taylor's fundraising page for the Dewey Beach Championship benefitting pediatric cancer research at https://secure.qgiv.com/event/dv2024deweybeachchampionship/account/1756523-Hungrydog.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

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#112: Brian Hyman (he/him) is a certified yoga and meditation teacher, author, and father. Brian has been sober since 2009 and has been working at a prominent treatment center in Malibu, California since 2012. Yoga has played an instrumental role in his personal recovery journey. Nine months into sobriety yoga flowed into his professional life as Brian started teaching yoga so other folks in recovery could access its transformative effects. Check out the episode and hear Brian's story, including:

His experience on the yoga mat in early sobriety where he found that recovery was more than putting down the substance: it was a way of living and connecting.
The progression from discovering yoga to becoming a teacher at a treatment center, and how this mirrors Liz's own experiences.
Trusting that we are all worthy of redemption and healing, and that if recovery is available to everyone then it is available to me too.
Borrowing ideas from other folks in recovery and weaving them into the "patchwork quilt of our lives."

Check out Brian's book Recovery with Yoga: Supportive Practices for Transcending Addiction at https://a.co/d/jhDhy7J.

Visit Brian's website at brianhymanyoga.com.

Check out Brian's courses on recovery and yoga and his guided meditations on the app Insight Timer at www.insighttimer.com/brianhyman.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

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#111: Natalya Fearnley (she/her) started her recovery journey by opening the thousand-pound door at The Phoenix gym in Denver to attend a yoga class. After trying out various recovery programs she found her home in Recovery Dharma. She threw herself into being of service and quickly became an active member in the community. A year and a half into sobriety, Natalya was elected to the Board of Directors of Recovery Dharma. Tune into the episode to learn more about Natalya and her recovery journey, including:

The practice of telling folks reminders you need to hear too, and how this is a way to serve others while serving yourself.
How recovery is a building a relationship with ourselves. What tools can we use to help us navigate the world?
Natalya's full circle moment when she returned to the teachings of Thich Nhat Hanh, which she had studied as a child.
Alchemizing loneliness into solitude and teaching yourself how to be your own best friend.

Check out the Recovery Dharma Space on The Phoenix Mobile App here: ‎ https://thephoenix.page.link/onrq ‎

To learn more about Recovery Dharma, check out their website at recoverydharma.org

Check out Natalya's blog We All Need to Recover at rovingphrase.substack.com

Check out rovingphrase.com and find them on Facebook and Instagram @rovingprhase

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.
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#110: Elizabeth Addison (she/her) is a multi-hyphenate (composer, lyricist, librettist, producer, music director & director) as well as a person in recovery from a variety of things including substance use disorder. She is also a creative recovery coach with The Meghann Perry Group, an organization equipping the behavioral health workforce with tools and education on addiction recovery.

Check out the conversation to learn about Elizabeth and her work exploring the intersection of recovery and the performing arts, and more:

Elizabeth's experience at a residential treatment center, and how she gave herself permission to grow out of the thing that initially saved her life.
How starting her musical nine months into recovery gave her an anchor and sense of purpose.
Seeing the world through a lens of love, and how this grounds her recovery.
Learning to trust yourself and being able to say "I trust my recovery."

Visit the Meghann Perry Group website at www.meaghannperry.com.

Follow Elizabeth on Instagram @elizabeth.addison3 where she regularly details her recovery journey and how she uses art as a therapeutic tool.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

Join the Phoenix community & sign up for classes with a single click by downloading The Phoenix App! In the app, you can connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group. Let us know what you thought about today's episode, and what you'd like to hear in future shows! We can't wait to chat with you there.

Learn more about The Phoenix, sign up for classes, or become a volunteer at https://thephoenix.org/ .

Find us on Instagram at @riserecoverlive

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#109: Hilary Sheinbaum (she/her) is the author of The Dry Challenge and founder of GoingDry.co, an organization focused on creating unique and fun non-alcoholic spaces and curating non-alcoholic menus. As a strong proponent of Dry January and other sober months, Hilary introduces folks to experiences that don't involve booze, letting individuals explore sobriety in a fun and safe environment.

Check out the conversation with Hilary to hear her story and more, including:

Her experience first doing Dry January in 2017, and how her whole life has evolved since then.
Experiencing events for the first time without alcohol, like dating and weddings, and how daunting this feels but how rewarding and fun it can be.
How GoingDry.Co was created and their recent adventure to Hawaii.
The rise of non-alcoholic beverages and how important it is to educate individuals about these options.

Check out GoingDry.co and Hilary's own website hilarysheinbaum.com

Check out Hilary's book The Dry Challenge: How to Lose the Booze for Dry January, Sober October, and Any Other Alcohol-Free Month

Preorder Hilary's next book: Going Dry: A Workbook: A Practical Guide to Drinking Less and Living More

Follow Hilary on Instagram @hilarywritesny and @goingdry.co

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#108: Ryan Carpenter and Sophie Pyne are Co-Founders of Waves of Recovery, the Los Angeles based non-profit dedicated to supporting people in recovery from mental health and addiction find healing, connection and community through surfing. As individuals in recovery themselves, Sophie and Ryan help folks navigate the waters and connect with themselves and each other on a deeper level. Check out the episode to hear from Sophie and Ryan as they discuss their own recovery journeys, and more, including:

How one of the beautiful gift of recovery is the chance to pursue new hobbies and experiences you did not think were available to you.
The moments when recovery stuck for Ryan and Sophie, and how now they facilitate that same connection and inspiration for others.
How Waves of Recovery was formed, and the shared passion between Ryan and Sophie for connecting the mental health space with the outdoors.
The reminder that working in the recovery field is not your recovery, and it's important to find ways to nourish yourself so you can continue to give.

Learn more about Waves of Recovery at wavesofrecovery.org and check out their Instagram @wavesofrecoveryinc.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#107: Bryce and Liz are back this week to discuss a topic that carries both positive effects and negative drawbacks: social media. If the opposite of addiction is connection, then social media can be a tool to connect us, like it connected Bryce to this podcast. For Liz, social media is how she discovered The Phoenix, as well as other recovery communities and yoga spaces.

But just as social media can be positive, it can also negatively impact our mental health and become an escape. To that, Bryce reminds us of the "power to click" and allowing yourself to pause. Check out the episode to hear from Liz and Bryce as they dive into this topic and more, including:

Bryce's experience working through some recent anxiety, and the beauty he witnessed after sitting through it.
The moments of lightness and joy that lead us to make a change. For Liz, this moment was on the yoga mat.
The gift of pause in recovery and filling the void with things that will make you feel better.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#106: As a social worker and person in recovery, Mary Long (she/her) knows that her past experiences are some of her biggest assets when it comes to helping other people. When Mary started her recovery journey she did not foresee her life being this impactful. Now her story has meshed together in beautiful and painful ways, solidifying her sense of purpose in the mental health community. Tune into the episode as we discuss the balance between self-care and self-motivation and more, including:

Taking intentional pauses from relationships to be able to show up with compassion.
How recovery programs share similarities to Cognitive Behavioral Therapy in how we examine our thoughts as they relate to personal experiences.
Mary's experience recovering from hopelessness to then be faced with health challenges that feel very hopeless.
Remembering that the light is not as impactful if the dark is not recognized.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#105: Tara Mastracchio (she/her) is the CEO and Founder of Samay Trauma Recovery and Resiliency. With a lifetime of learning to confront and overcome trauma, Tara walks with others to help them recognize and overcome their own trauma. Tune into the episode to hear the conversation as we discuss Samay International and more:

How a plan to move to Central America for 2 months turned into 8 years of travel to 25 countries over 5 continents with 9 different languages.
Learning to trust your intuition again, and the idea that "if that door opens, I will walk through it; and if it doesn't, I'm supposed to go somewhere else."
Cleaning out the closet underneath the steps: looking back to see what made us turn to substances for a solution in the first place.
We didn't create trauma by ourselves, so we don't have to solve it alone. Connection heals!

To learn more about Tara and Samay International check out samayinternational.com/

Check out Tara's Instagram @tara_samayinternational and her Facebook at Tara Mastracchio

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#104: Brian Sims (he/him) CRPS-V, VSR, CEI is a person in long term recovery from Substance Misuse, MST, and Co-Occurring Disorders acquired while serving his country during the campaigns and operations in support of the Global War on Terrorism as a US Army Infantryman. He is also a suicide attempt (2015) and street-level homelessness survivor.

Brian is the Founder & National Director of Project Rebirth, a warrior recovery community organization dedicated to serving veterans, emergency responders, and families and loved ones. Check out the episode to hear Brian's story, including:

How civilians and non-veteran focused organizations can work with the warrior recovery community because we all share grief and pain.
The spirit of service and Brian's unstoppable drive to show up and use his knowledge and experiences to help others.
The concept of redemption, particularly in service, and the message we send to others.
How Marvel influenced the name of Project Rebirth, and how just like in the comics, the world is neither 100% good nor 100% bad.

Check out Project Rebirth at https://www.projectrebirth.us/ and on Instagram @_projectrebirth_

Visit the Project Rebirth Space in The Phoenix Mobile App!

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#103: This week Liz and Bryce are joined by Joie Gyondla (she/her), Beth Collinson (she/her) and Mike Ward to discuss the Moab retreat, a four day Phoenix-led camping trip in Moab, Utah. Check out the conversation to learn not only about the trip, but also about getting outside your comfort zone. Whether it is hiking the Moab arches, carpooling with strangers, or moving from Florida to New York -- let this episode be your encouragement to consider trying a new adventure.

We discuss this and more:

From hiking to gratitude circles, feelings of trust and camaraderie prevailed throughout the whole trip.
How there were a lot of 'firsts' for folks in Moab, and the beautiful thing about sober people is that they already know how to create safe environments and hold space for each other.
The magic of watching folks overcome challenges and accomplish things they did not think they were capable of.
Throwing yourself into things you did not think you could do before recovery and the bravery that takes.

Check out the Moab Retreat Space on The Phoenix Mobile App: https://thephoenix.page.link/XNMv ‎

To learn more about The Phoenix Moab Retreat 2024 visit: https://riserecoverlive.regfox.com/phoenix-moab-2024

Check out Joie's episode of the Rise Recover Podcast: Joie Gyondla: Inclusive Spaces & the Non-Linear Road to Recovery and Self-Love

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#102: Austin Marquez (he/him) and Carson Rammelt join Liz and Bryce III to share their story of creating STAGES, the 11 track album written by Austin and produced by Carson. The album recounts the different stages of recovery. It speaks to experiencing the pink cloud, carrying guilt from the past, falling in love again in sobriety, enduring different forms of "relapse", and finding inner-strength.

Check out the episode to learn more about the Carson and Austin and the beautiful piece of work they created together, including:

How although producing the album was intimidating at first, the project was incredibly healing to Carson throughout his first year of recovery.
The song Austin wanted to omit from the album and how Carson talked him through keeping it for others to hear.
How a microphone is similar to a camera in the way that it picks up all the emotions and intentions.
The many stages of creating this body of work -- from reaching a place of healing so Austin could write about recovery, to sharing it with Carson, and now sharing it with us.

Stream STAGES on Soundcloud!

Follow Austin and Carson on Instagram @austin_mrqz & @sixfoot_5.

To learn more about Carson, check out his interview in People Magazine.

Check out Austin's first Podcast episode Healing Through Music and Community.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#101: Stewart Powell is back from his 2,650 mile trek along the Pacific Crest Trail and is here to tell us about his journey. For Stewart, this journey was the demarcation between his old and new life. What was always a bucket list item but never a possibility in active addiction, hiking the PCT felt like the perfect way to celebrate one year of sobriety. Check out the episode to hear about Stewart's adventure, including:

His time solo on the trail and the opportunity to be alone with his thoughts in a positive manner.
All the parallels to recovery: embarking on a journey because you feel called to do it; finding community; enhancing the experience by connection.
How the landscape was only half the experience... a huge part of the journey were the folks he met along the way, including his 'tramily.'
The funny thing about epiphanies on the trail.
How he felt finishing the PCT: he's still the same guy just with a little more experience and an immense sense of gratitude and humility.

Check out Stewart's first episode of the Rise Recover Live Podcast "Stewart Powell: The Trail to Recovery"

To see more from Stewart's journey, check him out on Instagram at @sober_hiker_stew and on Facebook

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#100: Welcome to the 100th episode of the Rise Recover Live Podcast! This week Bryce gets open and honest about co-occurring disorders. He and Liz dive into what it was like coming to terms with ADHD diagnoses, and how the process looks now. They also take a moment to express gratitude for their friendship and for this space that they get to share with each other and this community. Tune into the episode to hear more, including:

How having conversations about ADHD gave Bryce the language to define the playing field and seek out tools and solutions.
One of the biggest gifts in recovery: being able to show up for life on life's terms.
Learning how to have compassion for himself, and how community can help us with this.
The residual shame in recovery that can prevent us from living life to the fullest, and why it's important to be patient and honest with ourselves about what we share.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#99: Jennifer Nicholaisen (they/she) is the co-founder and Executive Director of SeekHealing, an Asheville-based non-profit pioneering a novel “social health” protocol to address loneliness and social disconnection. As an organization, they tackle the root causes of the substance use epidemic and other national mental health crises. Check out the episode to learn more and to hear Jennifer's own path to recovery, including:

Corporate hustle culture and seeking validation outside yourself, as well as the major burnout that ensued.
The incredible mirror effect Jennifer experienced while helping a friend go through detox and realizing that high levels of presence and connection are what makes life feel good.
Her experience undergoing Ibogaine detox in Mexico.
What led her to co-found SeekHealing and take a social and relationship-oriented approach to recovery.

To join the SeekHealing space on The Phoenix mobile app click here: https://thephoenix.page.link/crnz

To learn more about SeekHealing check out their website seekhealing.org and their Instagram @seekhealing.

To sign up for Listening Training visit the webpage seekhealing.org/listening-training.

To bring Listening Training to your organization email training@seekhealing.org.

Check out SeekHealing's Social Health Facilitation Training (SHFT) to learn how to facilitate group connection in your community: www.seekhealing.org/shft.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#98: Trevor Flick (he/him) is an endurance athlete, an avid outdoorsman, an alcoholic, a dog dad, someone who is constantly on the hunt for candy, and a person who is attracted to things that can kill him. To Trevor, recovery is the gift that keeps on giving. From finding his community of like-minded individuals, to safely participating in extreme sports, his recovery has allowed him to rediscover so many aspects of himself. Tune into the episode to learn more about Trevor as we discuss recovery, failure, his community, and more, including:

His failure to finish his first ultramarathon, and the humbling moments that followed as well as the growth and a mindset shift.
How there are lessons to be learned in failure, and this only makes you more well-rounded and stronger for the next round.
How Trevor stumbled upon The Phoenix at an important crossroads, and the important effect this had.
Leaving behind his old social circle and creating a new one in recovery among individuals who want to be social, be fit and do better.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#97: As a member of the hospitality industry and a lover of bar culture, Mark LaFaro has forged his own path in recovery. With a network of sober friends and ex-coworkers who are also in recovery, Mark navigates the hospitality industry and its culture as a sober person. Bartending while sober was not only eyeopening, but it rekindled his love for the industry. Check out the episode to hear more of Mark's story, including:

His experience working in the alcoholic beverage industry and his fascination now with the non-alcoholic beverage industry.
Building his toolbox, which included many communities and resources, such as Ben's Friends, and non-alcoholic beverages.
How reporting and journalism have evolved into his recovery journey.
The progress and excitement surrounding the non-alcoholic beverage industry, and how it can be another tool in the toolbox.

Check out episode #72 with Mickey Bakst, the Co-Founder of Ben's Friends, and learn more at https://www.bensfriendshope.com/.

To learn more about Mark, follow him on Twitter @marklafaro and Instagram @whatisraregroove

Check out Mark's writing at https://www.goodbeerhunting.com/authors/mark-lafaro
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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#96: Michelle Costigan (she/her) is a licensed clinical professional counselor, clinical alcohol and drug counselor supervisor, art therapist, and yoga instructor. She believes that movement and nature have saved her life countless times and enjoys being able to share these tools with others through her role as The Phoenix's program manager in Las Vegas. Tune in to hear Michelle's story, including:

What recovery means to her, including aspects adapted from the SAMSHA definition.
Her experience working in clinical psychology ... and the scary but life-changing decision to leave her private practice and embark on a new career journey.
Permission slips: allowing yourself to intentionally take up space and show up authentically in whatever pain you are experiencing.
The incredible power of community healing.

For any listeners who may be interested in finding an art therapist to work with, visit the American Art Therapy Association website at https://arttherapy.org/.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#95: This week Bryce and Liz welcomed Mika Mumme (she/her) to the Podcast. Mika is the Phoenix Denver Manager, a Black woman, and a person in recovery -- all identities she proudly says with enthusiasm. Much of Mika's journey has been trying to figure out who she is. From being adopted and growing up in a predominantly white town, to finding recovery and a place she knew she belonged, finding her identity has been a large part of her journey. Tune into the episode to hear their discussion about recovery, identity, and more, including:

Mika's experience finding her birth mother and siblings, and how being in recovery allowed her to undertake this journey and feel comfortable in her skin.
The massive change from feeling chaos and turbulence while in active addiction to feeling peace and acceptance in recovery.
Chapters of life, and the current moment of peace and acceptance that Mika is in.
Discipline and routine, and how she knows if she can build a foundation and a schedule, she'll feel even-keeled.

To learn more about Mika, follow her on Instagram @marikafaye
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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#94: Angie Chaplin (she/her) is a speaker, consultant, and the Founder of Mindful Leadership, an organizational culture and leadership development business. For Angie, the journey to freedom from alcohol has empowered her to be exactly who she is and do the things that bring her joy. Hear from Angie as she discusses leadership, discovering core values, and more including:

Her recovery journey thus far, and how she employs her own practice of self-leadership, reflection, and mindfulness.
Why leaders are made, not born.
The disconnect when we don't know our core values, and how we can discover them.
How she takes care of herself and protects her energy so she can be social and connect with other folks.

Learn more about Angie by visiting her website https://www.angiechaplin.com. You can also find her on LinkedIn and Instagram @angie_chaplin and @_mindful_leadership_.

Check out Brave Leadership at braveleadership.org and cfneia.org/giving/find-a-fund/874. Learn more on Instagram @_brave_leadership_ and Facebook.

Online resources mentioned in the show:

https://brenebrown.com/resources/dare-to-lead-list-of-values/

https://brenebrown.com/resources/living-into-our-values/

https://jamesclear.com/core-values

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#93: As a chef in New York City who specializes in opening restaurants, Ashley Rath (she/her) has years of experience in the restaurant industry. And as a person in recovery, she speaks openly and honestly about substance use disorder and sobriety, especially in the workplace. Once she started sharing, not only did she discover that other folks were in recovery, but her candor let others know that it's ok to ask for help.

Check out the episode to hear the conversation with Ashley, including:

The intensity of the hospitality industry, and why many folks turn to substances in that environment.
How her role as Executive Chef has allowed her to set the ground rules to create a safe space in the kitchen for herself and others.
The reality of seeking treatment as a professional in the hospitality industry, and the difficulties that prevent folks from getting care.
The best advice she received while in treatment: Embrace the boredom.
Asking for help is not a problem, and having a problem is not a problem; we are all human.

To see more from Ashley, follow her on Instagram @ashleynoelrath and check out her restaurant at https://www.twentythreegrand.com/.

Check out our episode with Mickey Bakst, Co-Founder of Ben's Friends HERE.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#92: Bryce and Liz return for their second ever live recording in front of an audience on Zoom. With thoughtful insight from the audience, Liz and Bryce dive into what is means to be in recovery. Tune into the episode to hear how their relationships to recovery have evolved and more, including:

Liz's reflections amidst a full circle moment. For her, recovery evokes a deep sense of pride and gratitude.
Bryce's wisdom on showing up for life on life's terms, because living with intention doesn't mean life gets easier.
The service aspect of recovery, and those moments when you might need to take a break and show up as a participant.
The moments of scribbles, and after when we lean into community and reach new levels of clarity.
Insight from audience member, Danny, on rebuilding a life in recovery.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#91: Bryce returns with another snack-sized episode from the 2023 Mobilize Recovery Conference, where he sat down with artist, author, and facilitator Rosi Greenberg. Bryce and Rosi recently discovered they have a unique trait in common: they both named their inner critic SAM. Tune into the episode to find out why it's valuable to name your negative inner voice and how you can start to heal it, and more:

How giving the acronym SSAM to his inner critic has helped Bryce establish space between him and those feelings.
The process of learning to confront your inner critic by articulating it. For Rosi, her tool is drawing. As for Bryce, he turns to music.
The beauty of the recovery community: part of our own recovery is reaching out and supporting others.
Questioning who do you see yourself as being? And constantly redefining that and growing.

To get in touch with Rosi and learn more about her book, check out her website www.lovethatmess.com

Follow Rosi on Instagram @love.that.mess

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#90: As the Member Relations Specialist, Dina Gonsalves-Perez is the first face folks see when they walk through the doors at The Phoenix in Boston. After spending much of her adult life battling substance use disorder, Dina is a proud person in recovery. And although she still has bad days, life is good, because she has no reason to use.

Tune into the episode to hear Dina's story, including:

Her message to others: all the the things you did out there, those are just things you did, that is not who you are.
The bottom line, and how Dina's kids and her family kept her alive.
How sometimes focusing on one hour at a time is too much, and we need to break it down into seconds and minutes.
The reason why after every paycheck, Dina buys herself a small trinket.

To get in contact with Dina, email her at dgonsalves@thephoenix.org

To hear more of Dina's story, check out this video on YouTube.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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Liz & Bryce check in with the RRL fam for the holiday.

Wishing you a fun and safe holiday and New Year!

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#89: This week we welcome Vic Vela, host of the Back from Broken Podcast and a fellow person in recovery. Vic decided to take the two things he had a lot of experience in and use them for the public good: a career of effectively telling stories through journalism and his struggles with addiction. Stories are the shortest path to connection and community. Through sharing these stories of struggles and triumph, we help each other, as there is not a single person who is not impacted by addiction one way or another. Tune into our conversation with Vic to hear his story of recovery and more, including:

The YouTube video that gave him the little nudge to ask for help.
The question that saved his life: Are you really going to wake up and go through this all again tomorrow?
How his childhood hero got to be one of the first guests on his podcast.
Letting go of control, and how addiction is like trying to be the captain of the Titanic.

To hear more from Vic, check out his podcast Back from Broken, a space that regularly showcases the courage it takes to come back.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#88: Bryce is back with more live coverage from the 2023 Mobilize Recovery Conference where he had the opportunity to sit down and chat with Stancil Tootle. Stancil is a person in long-term recovery who is blind and from a rural area in Georgia. He is a presenter at the Conference and speaks on the barriers to recovery for people who look like him, from both a racial and disability standpoint. Check out the episode to hear a discussion on access to treatment for folks with disabilities, bringing awareness within the recovery community, and more, including:

How the recovery community presents some of the same ableist mindsets as the general public, and how we can do better.
How organizations like The Phoenix can be more inclusive and ensure that folks with disabilities are not a second thought.
How there is stigma in the recovery community, but also a lot of stigma towards recovery within the disability community.
A perception shift: one of beauties of recovery is that you live long enough that you might end up needing some care . . . and you want to make sure the care is there when you do.

To connect with Stancil, check out the Facebook group Tuesdays with Tootle and check out his weekly Zoom meetings

To learn more about Mobilize Recovery, check out https://mobilizerecovery.org/

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#87: This week we are joined by Stacey Levin (she/her), a dual Certified Peer Recovery Specialist and Certified Community Health Worker. Stacey manages the statewide mobile harm reduction outreach team at Parent Support Network of Rhode Island. In her work as a peer and community health worker, her job is not to get folks to an ultimate destination. Rather, she reminds us that recovery can be defined very differently from person to person... and there are as many ways to be in recovery as there are people in it. Check out the episode to hear more of our conversation with Stacey, including:

The importance of a community aspect to modern-day harm reduction.
Stacey's everyday goal: to develop connections with folks so they feel seen, respected, and loved just because they are a person.
The nuances of her experience in a 12 step program, and learning to operate within that.
How Stacey pours into herself to maintain the capacity to show up for others on a deeper level.
The journey that brought her to where she is now, and why she has dedicated her life to working with and helping others.

Check out these resources provided by Stacey:

To connect with Stacey, add her on LinkedIn.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#86: Bryce bring us another bonus episode from the 2023 Mobilize Recovery Conference where he sat down with Joseph Green to talk about storytelling, activism, and what brought him to the conference. Joseph is a father, narrative disruptor and a believe in the power of storytelling, and he can be all these things because he is a person in long-term recovery. Check out this episode as Joseph and Bryce dive into what it means to be a professional storyteller and Joseph's work advocating for voices in the community. They also discuss:

Joseph's goal for attending the Mobilize Recovery Conference, and what he would like to see happen.
The time Bryce heard Joseph's live poetry reading, and the lasting impact it left.
What total health encompasses, and it's not just about making smart choices.
Spoken word poetry, and why Joseph doesn't call himself a poet.
The difference between sobriety and recovery, according to Joseph.

To get in touch with Joseph, check out his website https://www.lmsvoice.com/

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#85: This week, Liz and Bryce bring you a live episode from the Multiple Pathways of Recovery Conference (MPRC) in Des Moines, Iowa. The conference, hosted by The Connecticut Community for Addiction Recovery (CCAR), gathered recovery leaders and professionals from around the United States to connect and educate each other. On stage, Liz and Bryce are joined by Jacki Hillios and Meghann Perry for a conversation on all the ways that folks can live fulfilling and fun lives in recovery. Tune into the episode to hear the discussion, including:

- What does fun look like in recovery, and why is fun important?
- The joyful and rewarding experience of watching others experience joy.
- Finding moments of connection and disconnection in sweet harmony. For Bryce it is music, for Liz's it's yoga. What is yours?
- In the moments we hesitate to move forward and we feel stuck, Jacki reminds us to start by taking a step.
- Boredom is a gift: it's a space to reflect, imagine, and be present.
- Looking at fun as a dimension of wellness, especially when incorporated into the journey of discovery that recovery offers us.

Learn more about The Multiple Pathways of Recovery Conference on their website HERE.

To learn more about Meghann Perry check out her website HERE.

To learn more about Jacki Hillios check out her bio HERE.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#84: This week we bring you a very special bonus episode featuring the story of Randy Beard, one of the attendees at the 2023 Mobilize Recovery Conference in Washington D.C. While at the conference, Bryce opened up a space for folks to share their stories and tell us what brought them to Mobilize. He was able to connect with Randy, a Maine native who was attending the conference, and capture his story. Randy is a person in recovery, who struggled with substance use disorder for 36 years and spent 25 years as part of the unhoused community. During this profoundly moving conversation with Randy, we discuss:

- The two people who checked on Randy everyday and offered him solutions when no one else was interested in helping.
- The celebration of life that turned into a 1,000 person event and eventually led him to attend Mobilize Recovery in Las Vegas.
- The thought that there are 22 million people in recovery in the U.S., and if we could all save just one life, that's a lot of lives changed.
- Why he goes back to the homeless encampments and shows people unconditional love: because not having that himself was like quick sand; the more you struggle the more you sink.
- Being able to see the light come on in someone's eyes. For Randy, there is nothing more rewarding.
- A message to the parents and loved ones of folks who battle substance use disorder.

Check out the Recover2gether Facebook group, a group started by people in recovery to support each other and recognize the loved ones we have lost. All are welcome

Check out episode #25 with Mobilize Recovery founder, Ryan Hampton.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#83: Andy Benckart (he/him) developed a love and passion for surfing from a young age. He recalls traveling throughout his childhood from his home in landlocked-Pittsburgh to coastal Long Island to surf. While the ocean was "his first addiction," he later found alcohol in high school and it became the crutch for his underlying anxiety. Surfing was the part of him that he loved so much but lost during his addiction. Now he's a sober cold water surfer and surfing has become a form of his recovery. Check out the episode to hear more of Andy's story, including:

- What it's like to get sober as a young person, which both Bryce and Andy relate to.
- The day Andy woke up with a moment of clarity and decided he wanted to change.
- His first year of sobriety, and how he tried to "white knuckle" his way through recovery.
- Knowing how to find the middle ground, and why he practices extreme self-care so that he can live an extreme life.
- Why it's important to him to say he's been in recovery for 6 years and sober for 4 years.
- How surfing has taught him to be authentic, present, and let go, and recovery has helped him understand this.
- Why it's critical to find things that teach you about life and how to accept what you cannot control.
- Andy's wisdom: fear is not the end all be all of our human experience.

To hear more from Andy, check out his Instagram @steelcitysurfer

Check out the Rise Recover Live episode Tips for Traveling in Recovery!

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#82: On this week's episode, we sat down with Meaghan Navarro Walsh (she/her) to talk about recovery, marriage, identity journeys, and much more. Meaghan is a person in long-term recovery and she also works at The Phoenix as an Onboarding Specialist, working closing with volunteers. She lives in Long Beach, California with her wife and recently celebrated her 32nd birthday. Tune into the episode to hear our conversation with Meaghan, including:

- The emotions surrounding birthdays, and that it's ok to let yourself be excited because you are worthy of being celebrated and feeling joy.
- Overcoming the fear that she had nothing to say that would resonate with folks. As a past guest reminded us, you deserve to take up space!
- Her experience working at The Phoenix, and how we're all just trying to be together, have fun, and stay sober.
- Coming to terms with her "identity journey" and learning to accept herself at what ever point she's at.
- How being sober has been a very humbling experience and she's had to deal with new feelings and emotions, such as learning she's more introverted.
- Learning to blossom out of the mud like a lotus flower.
- Why it's important for her to say she's married, and the pride and gratitude this brings her.
- Touch trees, and how lucky we are to have them.

Check out episode #30 of the Rise Recover Live Podcast with Sophie Lyons!

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#81: In honor of Veteran's Day, we are thrilled to welcome a special guest Kelly Miller (she/her/hers) to the podcast. Kelly is the Regional Manager for The Phoenix, supporting programs and team members in 6 states across the country. She is the founder of The Movement Collaborative, a trauma-informed movement space in Livingston, MT. With a background in mindfulness and trauma, she shares her expertise by leading yoga at veteran retreats and by hosting workshops to service-care providers and educators. Kelly herself is a veteran, who served 13 years in the Montana Army National Guard, including a year-long deployment in Iraq supporting Operation New Dawn. Check out the episode to hear Kelly's story, including:

- Drinking culture in the military, and how the use of alcohol for everything -- from celebrating to grieving -- was instilled in her early on.
- Kelly's experience returning home from deployment and the huge culture shock and trauma she had to face.
- What happened when she started to feel the symptoms of PTSD, and how she reached out to her local Veterans Affairs office who helped her realize she had a drinking problem.
- Finding yoga and meditation, and how this helped her sleep better and ground herself in the present moment.
- What led her to found The Movement Collaborative, bringing low-barrier mindfulness and movement opportunities to folks in her community.
- How The Phoenix can be a resource for veterans by helping foster a sense of community and camaraderie through shared healthy experiences.

Vist the The Movement Collaborative website and check them out on Instagram HERE.

Use this link to find recovery meetings for veterans & first responders through Project Rebirth in The Phoenix mobile app: https://links.thephoenix.org/Project_Rebirth

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#80: This week we bring you a LIVE podcast recording at the 2023 Association for Addiction Professionals (NAADAC) Conference, featuring special guests Cynthia Moreno and Angela Maxwell. Cynthia, the Executive Director at NAADAC, grew up in the foster care system and has dedicated her life to helping children and families like hers. Very few people speak for the children, and it is Cynthia's vision to give kids the opportunity for a chance at life.

Angela serves as the President of NAADAC and works as a substance use prevention professional. She is an ally who advocates for folks regardless of where they are on the continuum of recovery, and works tirelessly to support the workforce within the recovery industry.

Check out the episode to learn more about NAADAC and to listen to our conversation with Cynthia and Angela, which includes:

- Why it's important to advocate for our own recovery workforce.
- The importance of finding opportunities and spaces to just show up, especially in early recovery. Sometimes we can get intimidated thinking about the big process.
- As providers in the community, we must look for doors to open for folks and to let people know we're here to help.
- This line of work can be challenging and uncomfortable, but once you give into it, there is a whole new level of connection.
- The importance of pouring into yourself so you can pour into others.

To learn more about NAADAC, visit their website.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

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#79: This week we spoke with Brian Hill, the founder and CEO of Edovo, an organization that provides robust educational, vocational, and rehabilitative curriculums and content to incarcerated people. While growing up, Brian’s father taught classes at a prison in California and would come home and read the essays written by his pupils as bedtime stories to his kids. Brian recounts how he could feel the hope emanating out of each of those essays. Now, Brian has dedicated his life to bringing folks daily access to education and programming, so anyone who wants to take a shot at turning their life around has the tools and resources to do so. Tune into the episode to learn more about Brian and Edovo, including:

Why criminal justice is a story of recovery, and we must offer folks more grace and recognize the complexities.
Recovery is all about increasing our choices, however prisons stifle the opportunity for individuals to practice making good choices. Edovo gives folks the path to gradually show up and make decisions on a daily basis.
How just like at The Phoenix, it’s imperative to look at folks as the solution, rather than the problem.
Our current prison system is not a winning strategy, and fundamentally we need to decide as a country what we are trying to accomplish by imprisoning people.
Giving people back their humanness, and how small steps and actions can inject a whole lot of hope into folks.
How the vision of Edovo has always been to create a scalable mechanism for other organizations who are doing this type of work to get involved, like The Phoenix.

To learn more about Edovo visit https://www.edovo.com/

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

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#78: This week we have the pleasure of hearing from Cristy Smyth, a queer person in long term recovery living in The Bay Area. When Cristy started her recovery journey 10 years ago, she didn't think alcohol was the problem. However, looking back on that time in her life, Cristy reflects that she couldn't "draw a sober breathe." After an intervention staged by some coworkers, Cristy went to her first meeting. Although it was not the day she got sober, it was the day the seed was planted. Tune into the episode to learn more about Cristy and her recovery story, including:

- Her first meeting, and the moment she bravely raised her hand and the support that came after.
- The phone list that helped her when she was in a really tough spot, and the reason she picked up the phone and called Mary.
- Cristy's luck finding a roommate on Craigslist, who happened to have 6.5 years of sobriety and showed her how joyous and fulfilling a sober life can be.
- Her struggle with anxiety, and how a big part of her recovery journey has been learning and relearning to let go.
- What life looks like 10 years into this journey of sobriety, and how at times she still feels like a newcomer.

To keep up with Cristy, follow her on Instagram @lilCristy822

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

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#77: Liz and Bryce are back this week with a solo episode to discuss what happens when things get hard. From stubbing your toe to experiencing a close personal loss, and everything in between, those tough experiences and emotions don't disappear in sobriety. It takes time to learn how to break the habits and get through those feelings. For Bryce, time is one of the most important factors when it comes to dealing with hard things. Time allows for us to sit in the confusion and sadness, and reach back to previous experiences for tools to persevere. But for folks who don't have the luxury of time and hindsight, just as Liz and Bryce didn't in early recovery, it's important to surround yourself with the folks who have already cultivated the tools. Tune into the episode to hear more on this topic, including:

- The importance of mindset to Liz's journey, and the myth that once you put the substance down everything suddenly becomes better.
- How for Bryce, learning emotional regulation and how to reframe situations into something productive was, and still is, a huge part of his recovery journey.
- How sometimes the perfect storm of situations and emotions arise, and that's when the tools, routines, and resources are so important.
- How sometimes the small things can feel like climbing a mountain, but it's important to take a moment to reflect and "choose your hard."
- Bryce's motto: Wake up tomorrow and stand on the shoulders of the work you did today.
- Remembering to have compassion for yourself amidst the process: you are not the only one going through this.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

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#76: This week on the podcast we welcomed a Caldwell (he/him/she/her), an extraordinary entertainer whose talents include music, comedy, acting, reality television, and podcasting. Now 15 years into active recovery, Caldwell reflects on his experience getting sober at the age of 22 after his arrival in New York City. When asked about the role of recovery in his work, he says it's a big part of his attraction to sobriety. Most of Caldwell's professional career as an entertainer and performer has been as a sober person, even in "places of debauchery." And for him, the role of recovery in his work is highly important and exciting, as he can show others that it is possible to work in entertainment while navigating sobriety and recovery.

Check out the episode to learn more about Caldwell, also known as Bob the Drag Queen, including:

- His experience starting out as a drag queen with his sober friends, and how they were each other's safe spaces in the clubs.
- Recognizing that all his experiences have come together to influence who he is today, including sobriety, working in nightlife, and moving across the country.
- The phrase "let us love you until you learn to love yourself," and why this was crucial to hear in the beginning.
- How living in New York City taught him to present a much more authentic version of himself to folks and no longer focus on people pleasing.
- Learning how to show up and become a reliable person. Following through on his word has been a pillar of his life in recovery.
- Being of importance, by helping to clean up and host meetings, and reflecting on how this kept him sober for a long time.

To hear more from Caldwell, check out his podcast Sibling Rivalry and follow him on Instagram @bobthedragqueen

If you are in New York City and interested in attending meetings, Caldwell invites you to check out New York Inter-Group.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

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#75: We are back this week with a very special episode... our first LIVE recording! For this episode, we recorded in real time in front of an audience on Zoom. Liz and Bryce had the incredible opportunity to let the conversation be guided by our amazing Phoenix virtual community. Out of this came a beautiful discussion surrounding mental health, recovery stories, and a conversation about the seasons of life. Thank you so much to all that joined live, and thank you to all of you that are tuning into the recording. Check out this episode to hear more of the conversation, including:

- Liz's experience with anxiety, and how now as she's gotten further into recovery she feels safe to feel these emotions and employ the tools she's cultivated over the years.
- Tips from our audience on how they deal with anxiety.
- Hardware versus software: continuing to allow for humility and learning in recovery.
- Reflecting on the growth of the podcast, and allowing for change, like different types of podcast episodes, and live recordings at music festivals.
- The gift of hindsight, and how when we don't have hindsight yet, we can look to the folks in our community for examples and see what they've learned.
- Allowing for ourselves to bloom, because "you wouldn't take a sledgehammer to a rose."
- Liz and Bryce's answers to the question they ask guests at the end of every episode.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

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#74: When we asked Shane Berber to define recovery he responded: “It’s this, it’s Phoenix, family, new friends, a community, being part of something bigger… and having something bigger.” As the Community Engagement Coordinator for The Phoenix in Austin, Texas, recovery for Shane is his professional and personal life, and it’s a blessing everyday. After falling in love with gambling as a kid, Shane recounts his experience living with a compulsive gambling addiction and the scary course it led him down. Now, Shane alongside his mother leads a meeting for parents of compulsive gamblers. Tune into the episode to learn more about Shane and his recovery journey, including:

What happens "when the drug is money," and how gambling was the substance that catalyzed his addiction.
The events of June 10th, 2020, and the fateful conversation with his dad and his wife that led Shane to choose going to a treatment center over prison.
How in a gambling-specific treatment center Shane fell in love with recovery, as it was the first time he could relate to every single person in the room.
How after treatment, he started to love life again and enjoy the things he used to enjoy.
The moment when someone looked him in the eyes, and Shane realized he didn’t feel judged anymore, and he felt proud of who he was for the first time in a long time.
How slivers of hope are oxygen, especially because the journey is never pretty or linear.
Regaining his family’s trust, and how it was actions, not intentions, that really mattered to his family.
How The Phoenix in Austin was created, and his family’s role in making it happen.
His message to folks: try to love without enabling. There is hope.

Check out gamblersinrecovery.com.

If you would like to reach out to Shane, send him an email at sberber@thephoenix.org .

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

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#73: This week we have the privilege to hear from Eugene Barnes (he/him). A Baltimore city native, Eugene is a person in long-term recovery and the Volunteer Coordinator for The Phoenix-DFW. Eugene started dancing at 11 years old and immediately fell in love with ballet. At 17, he accepted his first contract with a ballet company and spent 18 years dancing professionally. From his esteemed career as a professional dancer, to later working at a treatment center and then at The Phoenix, Eugene has adapted to many different spaces throughout his life. Tune into the episode to hear more from Eugene', including:

- How once we start digging into community and embracing a new life, old habits start to "fall off like apples on a tree."
- How his decision on his own to quit smoking after 14 years truly revealed to him the power of addiction.
- For him, the longer he's been in recovery, the shorter his tolerance is for things that no longer serve him, and how liberating this feels.
- Eugene's life as a ballet dancer, and the unique world in which he found himself engulfed by.
- How ballet, the entity that had once saved him, began to no longer serve him and his difficult decision to leave a life on stage.
- The story of how he decided to go to rehab, and how his mom confronted him honestly and with love, rather than judgment.
- His experience in rehab, and how hearing other folk's stories helped him heal and later inspired him to work as an Aftercare Specialist at the treatment center.
- Understanding that no one knows all the answers, and we have to let people in to allow them to contribute to the space alongside us.
- His message to his younger self: remember to love yourself and let go of people, places, and things that cause mental and spiritual harm.

To learn more about Eugene, follow him on Instagram.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#72: This week on the podcast we welcome Mickey Bakst, the Co-Founder of Ben's Friends and a 48-year veteran of the restaurant world. When Mickey bought his first restaurant in 1973, people told him he would never be able to get sober in the food & beverage industry. Fast-forward to today, Mickey has 40 years of sobriety and continues to work in the industry he loves while actively changing the conversation and stigma surrounding substance use disorder. As told by Mickey, the restaurant industry is magic, but it is also being decimated by addiction. So in 2016, Mickey and his friend Steve Palmer decided to do something about it. They started the Ben's Friends, an organization that supports those in the food & beverage industry struggling with active addiction. Check out the episode to hear more of Mickey's story, including:

- The pervasiveness of drinking culture in the restaurant and hospitality world, and how the industry needs to start listening and talking openly about addiction.
- How restaurant professionals face different stressors and circumstances that are separate from the 9-5 world. This uniqueness means it's imperative to create spaces for them to connect, especially around substance use disorder.
- The advent of 'sober contracts' to support workers experiencing active addiction.
- Why Mickey sends new Ben's Friends members Van Halen's "Jump".
- How the industry is evolving towards inclusion, with more non-alcoholic beverages, sober spaces at music festivals, and open conversations with management.
- Why Mickey fell in love with the restaurant industry, and how he will never forget the feeling of making people laugh and feel good.
- His message to folks: there is a world in restaurants greater than anything you've ever imagined with sobriety. All you have to do is reach out to another sober person and they will help you.

Check out Ben's Friends, an organization offering community, hope and a path forward for food and beverage professionals who struggle with substance use disorder.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#71: When Molly McGee (she/her) founded Awaken, she wanted to share the transformative power of a healthy and consistent morning routine with her community and beyond. Through the tools of affirmation, intention, yoga, group discussions & more, she teaches folks how to change behavior patterns and build the life they strive to live. With this community and accountability, not only did Molly completely change the trajectory of her own life, but also the course of her recovery. Check out the episode to hear more of Molly's story, including:

- Her recovery journey, which includes time in a treatment center, a relapse at 3 years, and ending up in the hospital with a 10% chance of survival, to healing and learning the tools that she now teaches in Awaken.
- Listening to your body and your intuition. Although Molly follows a routine, she checks in with herself and has compassion, as some days we can't always give 100%.
- Why Awaken is such a miracle in her life, as she went from feeling intensely isolated and hopeless and to feeling a deep rooted faith that these lessons are something bigger than her.
- Her experience with liver and kidney failure, and the miracle of her survival and recovery as she retrained her mind and body to heal.
- The lessons learned from her near-death experience, and how this changed her outlook on her life.
- Neutral thinking: how to take the emotion out of your thinking to focus on making the next right move.
- The importance of community and self-love - "everything revolves around love!"

To connect with Molly, email her at molly.mcgee@joingreatlife.com

AWAKEN classes are every Thursday at 10:30 am EST on Phoenix Livestream! Click HERE to access the Phoenix livestreaming schedule, or go to The Phoenix app

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#70: For our 70th episode, we had the privilege to sit down and chat with Peer Support Expert and Wellness Coach, Kiola Raines (she/her). When asked about her personal recovery, Kiola says that for her, it's all about living her journey out loud. And although it can be daunting, she has made it her journey's foundation to put herself out there and get into recovery spaces. This courage and fearlessness is exemplified by the story of how she came to be a guest on this very podcast!

Tune into the episode to learn more about Kiola, including:

- Why she incorporates the skeletal and muscle system into her meetings: to remind everyone that underneath, we all look the same.
- Why she decided to 'break her anonymity' within 24 hours of sobriety, and the positive environment this created.
- What she's coined 'New Age Recovery': all the newer spaces where folks can recover out loud authentically and be unapologetically proud of their journeys.
- The times when she's felt burnout and the practices she's developed to recognize these feelings and not overextend herself.
- Her experience growing up in a result-oriented culture, where seeking out therapy was not spoken about. She started her journey in hopes that her family and friends would see that it's ok to admit you're struggling and to seek support.
- How Kiola honors the generations before her that lived through trauma and in a survival culture: by giving herself permission to heal and be open about her journey, because her relatives didn't have that access.
- What she would tell her former self: once you're willing to step away from the darkness, you can have a life full of light and genuine happiness. We are all worthy and capable of it.

To learn more about Kiola, check out kiolaraines.com and follow her on Instagram.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#69: One day in January 2021, two years into his sobriety, Rory Joseph Vannais (he/him) decided to pick 'running' as his personal fitness challenge for the upcoming year. Although he didn't particularly like running, he knew it would be an arduous task that he could put his best effort towards. Only a few months into 2021, he decided to take it up a notch and train for a race: his first marathon. Although the idea was a terrifying to him, he knew he could do it because he had already done the hardest thing in his life: beaten alcohol addiction. With that experience on his back, Rory knew that physical workouts were just an obstacle, and nothing compared to the challenge of overcoming substance use disorder. Since then he's run three marathons and is training for another three marathons this fall, including the New York Marathon which he is running to fundraise for The Phoenix!

Check out the episode to hear more our conversation with Rory, including:

- How being sober is a dream come true, as he gets to be a present father for his kids and a supportive husband, as well as give 100% to his job and still have time to chase his passions.
- The importance of structure and a disciplined routine in his life, and how it's been incredibly impactful for his mental wellbeing and his recovery.
- Having concrete goals to work towards, and whether he achieves them or not, it keeps him driven.
- Why he's always open about the fact he's in recovery, so other individuals know that it's ok for them to be open too.
- His running crew, and how this makes running so much more special to be able to share it with a community.
- The Phoenix Sober Run Crew, which Rory started in his local community and then brought to The Phoenix national virtual platform with fellow Phoenix runners.
- The beauty in making these connections with sober runners from all over the country who have all experienced substance use disorder, but now embrace recovery and are making something substantial out of it.

Check out Rory's fundraising page for the 2023 New York Marathon if you would like to support him and The Phoenix

Sign up for the Virtual Phoenix Sober Run Crew Meetup on The Phoenix mobile app, or on our website here

Follow Rory on Instagram and Strava

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#68: When Alex Esqueda's wife dragged him to a CrossFit class one morning during the early months of his recovery, he had no concept of what CrossFit was, nor a desire to step into any gym space. Now, Alex attributes a large part of his continuous sobriety to CrossFit, especially the community and connection. After just 2 years into sobriety, Alex opened his first CrossFit affiliate gym to help others learn to appreciate and prioritize movement in their daily lives. Since day one he's made recovery the culture and personality of his gym by fostering community and always sharing his story of active addiction and recovery with members. Check out the episode to hear more of our conversation with Alex, including:

- The importance of finding community and once we start talking about addiction and sharing our stories, we help others realize they're not alone
- The direct connection between emotion and physical health: both are just as effective and must be supported
- CrossFit as a way to release all the pent up energy and frustration that he had originally dumped into addiction
- The conversation with his wife that led him to check into a rehab facility
- His mother's wisdom that still resonates to this day: "addiction is like a switch, and once you switch it on it is very hard to switch off"
- How through research on addiction, he learned that yes, using is a choice, but a lot of the time that choice is stronger than you, and this doesn't mean you're a bad person, it means you're suffering from a disease
- At the end of the day, your life is the sum of the experiences you have with your loved ones

Check out CrossFit Decimate in Colorado Springs and Tampa!

To keep up with Alex, follow him on Instagram!

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.
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#67: This week we chat with Vivian Ulrich (she/her), Founder and Executive Director of Sober iThrive, and Internationally Certified Professional Recovery Coach specializing in Holistic Wellness for Women. Additionally, Vivian is the host of the Sobertown Podcast and serves as Sobertown's Public Relations Director. Tap into our conversation to learn more about Vivian and hear her story, including:

- Her experience working with a recovery coach who has helped her traverse through tough moments in sobriety, and the path that led Vivian to become a recovery coach herself
- How when she first got sober, she did it for her husband, but at around 4 months in, it all shifted and she decided to be sober for herself
- Answering the question "How will I know when I love myself?" and realizing it's when you wake up in the middle of the life you always dreamed to create
- How an online community helped Vivian discover recovery and led her to create her own virtual recovery space, Sober iThrive
- The importance of setting boundaries in relationships, particularly in her marriage to her husband when they had to confront his addictions
- Her experience as a recovery coach and using her own personal knowledge and lived experience to create a safe space to help guide others through recovery
- Embracing the label of 'alcoholic,' and allowing other's to see her as an example to end some of the stigma surrounding addiction and recovery

To learn more about Vivian, check out Sober iThrive and the Sober iThrive linktree. You can also keep up with Vivian on Instagram and Facebook.

Check out the Sobertown Podcast and listen to Liz's episode with Vivian HERE

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#66: This week we welcome Phil Valentine, a person in recovery, cancer survivor, Appalachian trail thru hiker, author, fisherman, and the Executive Director of the Connecticut Community of Addiction Recovery (CCAR). Now 35 years into his recovery, Phil tells us that the best is yet to come, and each day is beyond anything he could imagine in his wildest dreams. Listen to hear our conversation, including:

- The importance of emotional awareness for your recovery, and how we can gain power over our emotions by simply identifying them
- Recovery coaching, and how being able to take on others' emotions is a delicate practice
- How CCAR trains their coaches to actively listen, ask good questions, and treat folks as a resource. CCAR is now in 31 our of 32 emergency departments in Connecticut, and they work in community centers, jails & prisons, and over the phone
- Putting a face on recovery to help folks maintain and sustain recovery
- Be curious, don't condemn: the importance of multiple pathways and having compassion for folks who recover differently from you
- Challenging the use of the term 'peer' in peer recovery coach
- Phil's journey on the Appalachian trail in 2015 after being diagnosed with stage 4 cancer, and how it led him to write his book “Continue - Right Click on the AP Trail”
- Recovery is contagious! And we need recovery 'carriers' to demonstrate that recovery is possible and acceptable

To learn more about CCAR, check out https://ccar.us/

Check out Phil's book “Continue - Right Click on the AP Trail” HERE

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.
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#65: This week we welcome Phoenix volunteer and person in recovery, Stewart Powell to the podcast. After 20 years of active addiction, Stewart knew he was in a desperate situation and done feeling isolated and ashamed. One night in April of 2022 he opened his computer and searched for treatment centers. The next morning, he decided he would follow through with this plan and he picked up the search and called his family. Now over a year later, Stewart is out of treatment, volunteering at The Phoenix, and ready to embark on the journey of a lifetime. This summer, Stewart will be backpacking the Pacific Crest Trail as a fundraiser for The Phoenix, to inspire those in recovery, and raise awareness of Phoenix programs. The journey begins at the US/Canadian border, trudges through the states of Washington, Oregon, California, and concludes at the US/Mexico border. Check out and support his fundraising page HERE!

In the episode we dive into:

- The experience of being 'functional' and putting on a show for others: how this led Stewart to not know where the character he played ended and the real him began
- Dropping the façade: how sobriety has been a journey of rediscovering himself and reconnecting with the things he loves
- The excitement about doing all the activities he values that weren't a possibility in active addiction
- How he tried to attack addiction from all sides, trying all the tools he could: therapy, recovery groups, Phoenix, and getting back to outdoor activities
- How in sobriety, he still has to deal with the hard feelings, but he can now take time to pause, observe, and try to understand and then act instead of reacting like he did while in active addiction.

Find Stewart on Instagram and Facebook!

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.
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#64: Todd Jones (he/him) found The Phoenix through an unlikely source: the Colorado Springs Drug Court. Like most, Todd had no idea what The Phoenix was at first. He also had little desire to be sober. He DID however want to stay out of jail. In recalling rock climbing at his first Phoenix event, Todd remembers realizing "wow, that's the first time I've had a win in a really long time." Now after 12 years of volunteering and working at Phoenix, he's the Regional Manager and gets to see recovery in action everyday, something he could never have fathomed in early sobriety.

Tune into the episode to hear more of our conversation with Todd, including:

- How before Phoenix, Todd had no reference point of what recovery looked like or that it could be joyous.
-Why he wears his 'sober' shirt loud and proud for others to see
- Feeling seen and valued, and wanting to maintain a lifestyle of connection & community
- The barrier of stigma
- Realizing that the first step to solving any of his issues was sobriety. The starting point of the journey, and from that point forward he could start to build relationships in a safe space
- Not trying to tackle all your problems at once. It's a journey that we're all worthy of
- When his recovery went from "I have to do this" to "I get to do this"
- Fatherhood being the greatest delight and challenge of his life. Working through thinking that he wasn't the right person to be a Dad and learning that he can show up just as he is.

To reach out to Todd, email him at todd@thephoenix.org or follow Todd on Instagram

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.
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#63: This week we welcome Dr. Michael Fiori, MD (he/him) from online mental health care provider Talkiatry to discuss the substance use disorder treatment space and his experience helping folks start and sustain recovery.

Although he began practicing in 1981, it wasn't until the year 2000 while shadowing a dual diagnosis practitioner that Dr. Fiori found his calling. Thus ignited a life long mission to study and understand substance use disorder and how it interacts with mental health.

One of his greatest takeaways from this line of work: substance use disorder is NOT a "moral failing" and that this stigma and misunderstanding prevents folks from getting care.

In this episode:
- Working as a physician is a balancing act; one must stay open and receptive towards patients in their most vulnerable moments, but be careful to not burn out.
- Take care of yourself so that you can show up for others.
- We all carry prejudices and biases. It's imperative to examine our own thoughts and biases and understand how they may interfere with providing good care.
- A person experiencing substance use disorder is just as worthy of care as someone seeking treatment for a physical ailment.
- Acknowledging how we can provide better care to folks in treatment centers, particularly for non-male patients. We can always strive to make the space safer for all.
- When first contemplating getting sober, it may be an enormously daunting thought. Instead of measuring success on total abstinence forever, make it a goal to stay in treatment and be honest; two reasonable feats to strive for one day at a time.
- Dr. Fiori's advice: "This isn't your fault, but it is your responsibility... find someone you can trust to walk with you through this."

Check out Talkiatry, the online platform where Dr. Fiori currently provides care. Talkiatry's goal is to provide "human, virtual mental health care from doctors who take insurance."

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.
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#62: This week on the podcast, we welcome Don Fertman (he/him), Board Chair Emeritus of The Phoenix, current member of The Phoenix Impact Board and former Chief Development Officer of Subway. When Don first got sober, the last thing he wanted to do was allow people to know his story. Now decades into recovery, he proudly and candidly shares his story, and encourages others to speak out and tell theirs. In the episode, we discuss this and more:

- A jelly donut slowly sliding down the wall... and how this image represented his life in active addiction,
- How storytelling helped Don to cultivate self-compassion, particularly when he heard someone else share his story during an exercise.
- How Don candidly sharing his story on national television created a huge ripple effect, helping others find recovery and connecting him with the founder of The Phoenix, Scott Strode.
- That as soon as we share our stories and open our hearts to love, recovery kicks in.
- Letting go of ego, and realizing we all have more in common with folks than we think.
- Don's journey with music, from a warped relationship due to substance use disorder, to picking back up a guitar years later with sober friends.

To learn more about Don, check out this video

Check out Recovery Branches, an organization Don co-founded!

Check out Brave Enough to Fail, another organization that Don is involved with!

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

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#61: On this week's 'snack-sized' episode, Bryce and Liz discuss how to open up your life to new hobbies and activities in recovery, a phenomenon that is simultaneously amazing and daunting. It takes an enormous amount of mental and physical capacity to have your world revolve around a substance. And once you remove that substance from your orbit, it becomes a whole new quest of self-discovery to dig into what you're actually interested in and how you want to live your life. We delve into this and more:

- How for Bryce, he had to ask himself "who am I?" and how can I learn to love and accept all the pieces of myself?
- As for Liz, she pointed out the importance of doing new things just because they bring you joy. Trying out new interests don't have to be part of some grand scheme or huge purpose, it can be for delight.
- The boredom that can come when you put down the substance.
- How being intentional about experiences allows us to find what we're actually interested in.
- It all starts with one courageous first step. Lead with curiosity and patience, and understand that it's ok to try something and not like it.
- Be patient with the process and give yourself grace. Ultimately, we are the captains of our own ships.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

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#60: Seven years ago, a therapist challenged Donna Atkinson to "try one day:" Try to not drink for one day and don't worry too much about the rest. At the time, Donna couldn't imagine a life without alcohol, but she made it through that first day, and that first night, and every subsequent day after that. One of her tools to stay sober was registering for CrossFit classes, which she started going to 3 times a week. Donna knew she couldn't show up hungover or be a no-show and waste the money she had already invested. Now as a CrossFit instructor and Phoenix volunteer herself, Donna is able to fill her own cup and create the joyous, welcoming spaces that she desperately needed in early sobriety. Tune into the episode to hear more of our conversation with Donna, including:

- Her higher power: relatedness and connectivity, and where she finds those spaces.
- How Donna's own experience of walking into spaces and not feeling safe or welcomed has made it her mission create spaces, specifically in CrossFit gyms, where everyone feels safe and included.
- The importance of recovering out loud.
- In recovery, Donna feels joyous, even on the hard days and when feeling painful emotions. That's her recovery in action.
- The hardest part of starting anything is getting through the door. That's why she makes her CrossFit classes fun and approachable, where everybody cheers each other on.
- Sobriety does not have to look a certain way to call yourself sober. It's unique to each person and that's what makes our community so special.
- You don't have to hit rock bottom to decide to be sober. For Donna, she didn't give up drinking until 1.5 years after her 'rock bottom.' It was when she realized that life was too short.

If you're in the Ithaca, NY area, check out Donna's Phoenix CrossFit classes: https://thephoenix.org/find-a-class/in-person/

Follow Donna on Instagram @fitsober

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical/mental health emergency, dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7
Call/text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of SUD. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

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#59: On this week's episode, we heard from you, our community of listeners, via the Rise Recover Live Podcast group on The Phoenix mobile app, on what you would like discussed on this week's snack sized episode. Liz and Bryce dove right into a discussion on how to handle big feelings in sobriety. They shared some of the tools they have cultivated over the years in their personal recovery. Keep in mind, no one has a monopoly on what is right, but Liz and Bryce are here to share things they've learned that have worked for them. Listen to the episode to hear us discuss:

- The powerful healing effect of talking it out with someone you trust, or writing it out, when you feel overwhelmed or angry.
- The importance of self-compassion, which is huge for Bryce, and reminding yourself to tap into community.
- Being around folks who model the attitudes you intend to have. Seeing the people who still show up in a loving way amidst adversity and becoming their 'understudy.'
- How in early recovery, or even years in, it's ok if you need to build a little bubble around yourself. Recognize what you need in those moments and give yourself grace.
- Reframing the situation: moving from asking how can I keep people from aggravating me to, why do I keep feeling aggravated? Productive change comes from feeling discontent and questioning your reactions.
- Call to action: Tap into your Phoenix community! Let us know what topics you would like to hear about via The Phoenix mobile app.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

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#58: Austin Marquez (he/him) stumbled upon a job listing at The Phoenix at a time when the community not only needed him, but he needed a sober community too. As Austin recalls, he decided to get sober on a Monday and got the call he was hired at Phoenix that Wednesday. Teaching at Phoenix gave him an opportunity and responsibility he wasn't fully ready for, but the timing was perfect -- it became his new 'home base' and a new community to learn from and give back to. Listen to the episode to hear more of our conversation with Austin, including:

- How being in recovery has allowed him to open up to not only his students, but to everyone in his life on a deeper level
- The importance of letting go of control -- we can't learn and grow if we focus solely on trying to control every experience
- How in active addiction, Austin was unable to create music for years, but the second he went into recovery and could care for himself and his craft, the creativity flowed
- The self-realization that he had a story to tell that could benefit other folks, and he could convey it through music
- The greatest gifts of sobriety: his music and his community, both of which have helped him heal

To check out Austin's livestream classes, visit The Phoenix livestream schedule HERE

To follow Austin's music account, check out his Instagram @austin_mrqz

To follow Austin's dance account, check out his Instagram @marquez_movement

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

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#57: Liz and Bryce are back with another bonus episode where they share how to navigate specific situations within the realm of the sober and recovery experience. This week, we talked all about celebrations amidst recovery. For Liz, voicing her needs and being open about sobriety was imperative when she entered spaces where alcohol was not only present, but the focus. As for Bryce, he reflects upon his relationship with music, both his own and other's, and how it is so much deeper than anything he ever felt while in active addiction. Sober spaces are happening anywhere folks are deciding to be sober, and that is a celebration within itself. We discuss this and more:

- Some of the tools Liz and Bryce have cultivated throughout their recovery journey that allow them to authentically show up in celebratory spaces .
- Creating red balloons: just by letting people know you're sober and that it's ok for them to be too starts a conversation, and let's folks know you are a safe space for them.
- Losing yourself to find yourself in the music, and how one particular concert experience changed Bryce's whole perspective.
- When Liz got sober, she realized spaces she thought she liked going to were actually because she liked drinking there. Now she doesn't enter those spaces, not because she no longer uses substances, but because she realized she never wanted to be there in the first place.
- Being a loud reference point for the folks who feel like they can't have these experiences anymore.
- An ongoing challenge: How can we activate in spaces that are supportive of our sober and recovery lifestyle, but not restrict ourselves?

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.
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#56: Today we welcome Joie (she/her) to the show. Joie is a queer, sober, activist and advocate that works to normalize folks in the world that are often times "othered." She uses her own lived experiences to help give voice to those that sometimes don't know how, or aren't given the chance to speak up and speak out against the inequalities that permeate our culture today.

When describing her recovery journey, she said it is just that: a journey, an exploration, an adventure, and a roller coaster. Every time she discovers something new about herself, she uncovers a new way that it applies to her recovery and a new way to live authentically. Tune into the episode to hear more of our discussion on:

- The importance of not just speaking, but actively listening, and how we can cultivate a space where that person feels comfortable and heard
- The turning point in her recovery when she started allowing herself to live authentically and confront years of internalized transphobia
- Realizing there is no one specific identity that defines her
- How Joie's transition with her gender identity unlocked something in her recovery that she had been missing the whole time
- The significance in being able to see yourself in recovery spaces and see people in the community who look like you and who share similar lived experiences. By just being present in the space, Joie helps to welcome other folks in.
- How can we in practice create a safe space? An how do we create an inclusive space for folks who aren't even in the room yet?
- Replacing shame and stigma with love: that is when the real magic and change happens
- Non-linear recovery, and why Joie doesn't often share her sobriety date, because we have to take it one day at a time
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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.
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#55: Today's bonus episode kicks off a special series of snack-sized episodes for the month of June! Throughout the month, Liz and Bryce will dive deeper and share their personal tools for navigating different scenarios in sobriety. On this episode, they discuss traveling while sober or in recovery. For Liz, traveling in recovery has made an enormous difference and she had to create new tools and strategies to help her feel safe and supported on the road. As for Bryce, sobriety has offered him the privilege to travel, coming from not having as much opportunity while in active addiction. Tune into the episode to hear more stories and tips including:

- Liz's surprise when she realized how much she had associated traveling with drinking, learning how to navigate anxiety with different tools.
- Bryce's advice to allow yourself time to “center” before a trip. Prepping by packing in advance, and giving yourself ample time to get through security.
- The realization that we don't have control over other people, but we can control our own attitude, even in chaotic situations like airport security.
- Giving yourself grace while traveling. You're not alone in navigating these situations.
- A call to action: let us know what areas you are interested in discussing so we can continue these conversations about traveling and topics beyond!

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.
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#54: Live from New York City, it's Liz and Bryce with Dave Manheim from the Dopey Podcast! We sat down with Dave to talk about all things recovery and podcasting. What started as weekly podcast by two close friends, Chris and Dave, about "drugs, addiction, and dumb sh**," has evolved into something bigger than they ever expected or intended. As recounted by Dave, the iconic show was never meant to help anyone, it was just meant to be a good show. The hope that the show inspires, and the fact it helps folks find recovery, has been an incredible and humbling ripple effect.

In the episode we talk about podcasting and more:

- Although Dave's recovery has never been centered around creating the Dopey Podcast, he recognizes that recording each week is a cathartic experience and brings him happiness
- The everyday circumstances where recovery kicks and we decide to show up for ourselves: in this case, with umbrellas and shopping carts.
- Dave's brave decision to relinquish anonymity and embrace including his last name on the show
- How praying mantis' evolved from a funny story to a symbol of the Dopey Podcast
- Laughing the survivor's laugh: the hope and bond formed between folks who have all experienced something horrible and survived

To learn more about Dave and the Dopey Podcast, visit their website here

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.
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#53: Although Collin (he/him) always thought of himself as someone who 'shows up' even on hard days, he realized he was running away from life with substance use. Now a recovery coach and avid long distance runner, Collin has honed the skills of showing up for himself and his community. For him, one of the most precious gifts of recovery is a high level of integrity poised with self-compassion, carried through all aspects of his life.

In this episode we discuss:

- How recovery is a choice, and it takes work.
- His acceptance that recovery does not prevent the plethora of unhappy emotions that come with being human, but now he has the tools to work through them.
- Finding the balance between cultivating self discipline & mental toughness with allowing yourself to have compassion. Moving away from a mindset of perfectionism and allowing yourself to make mistakes has been one of the toughest aspects of Collin's recovery journey.
- Realizing that you do have value and there is light on the other side. One of the greatest gifts in recovery has been helping others to see the value in themselves through Collin's work as a recovery coach.
- How his loss of identity as a student-athlete in college and then in treatment led Collin to pursue marathoning, as running was the one thing that made him feel positive during a low point.
- The positive impact of running on Collin's life, specifically how it shifted his focus from winning and attaining results to allowing himself to just be and recapturing a sense of purpose.

To learn more about Collin, follow him on Instagram: @wainleft or read about him in Runner's World: https://www.runnersworld.com/runners-stories/a34851775/runners-world-member-collin-wainwright/

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.
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#52: Join us for Liz (she/her) and Bryce’s (he/him) conversation that expands on Tuesday’s episode for Mental Health Awareness Month! In this episode they touch on their personal mental health journeys in hopes of destigmatizing the conversation for others who have had similar experiences. Liz and Bryce share their perspectives on therapists and the importance of staying humble in recovery and cherishing safe friendships and communities.

Whether with therapists or friends, sometimes the focus in relationships is more on what you need rather than what you want, and it’s important to remain open and receptive so change can occur. Although it's hard to keep the faith that whatever is on the other side of the struggle is worth it, we hope Liz and Bryce can encourage you today to know it is always worth it.

What we cover in this episode:

● Liz and Bryce’s experiences with therapists, including what has helped them to things they could do without

● Having a reference point for what productive therapy looks like

● Staying open to change and being willing to try things

● Safe friendships and community

● Keeping humble in the journey

● Choosing who to share the big things with

● Holding space for friends to vent

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.
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#51: May is Mental Health Awareness Month! In this week’s special episode, Liz (she/her) and Bryce (he/him) discuss some of their personal experiences and tools for mental health, and how it intertwines with their recovery journeys. Although mental health awareness extends beyond this month, we’re taking the time in May to call attention to how mental health can affect and challenge us all, so that together we can breakdown stigma. We discuss this and more:

Similarly to substance use disorder, the stigma surrounding mental health can prevent a lot of folks from asking for help. As a society we must reframe our perspectives to see someone asking for help as the first step to success, not an admission of weakness
The more we talk about mental health in our communities, the more we empower others to feel comfortable & safe sharing their own stories and struggles
Taking care of your mental health is not easy work! It is difficult to put words to what we’re feeling, but invaluable tools like therapy and journaling can help us
How for Bryce, recovery is synonymous with creating spaces where he can express his feeling and use tools, such as meditation, to work through mental health challenges
Having compassion for yourself allows you to have compassion for others. The Phoenix community is a powerful supportive resource!

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.
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#50: Matt Shindeldecker defines himself as a CrossFit L2 Coach, the owner of 13 year affiliate CrossFit Crave, and most proudly as a trauma survivor.

When Matt and Debbie first opened their gym, CrossFit Crave, they had no way of knowing the transformative effect it would have on their community. But they decided if they could just change one life, the community would be a better place. Fueled by that goal, Debbie’s background in trauma-informed education, and Matt’s healing experience in CrossFit, they started a juvenile fitness program. In the program, they connect young folks to a supportive community aimed at bridging mental health, wellness, and CrossFit programming. Six years later, the program has the lowest recidivism rate in the state of Ohio.

To share the knowledge that led to the program's success, Matt and Debbie launched CrossFit’s Affiliate Community Empowerment Program (ACEP)*. ACEP's goal is "to arm affiliates with the tools and education they need to create and host programs that serve people who have experienced trauma by improving their health and fitness, and helping them find a community."

In the episode, we discuss CrossFit, Trauma, ACEP* and more:

Matt’s lived experience with substance use disorder and his personal recovery journey,
How Matt’s first introduction to CrossFit changed his whole perception; it was the first time in his life he felt like he was seen for him, not as someone with SUD,
The importance of fostering community and how to be patient as resource for youth, while setting healthy boundaries,
The 3 pillars that uphold their program: community, equality, and consistency; paired with trauma-informed coaching.

Learn more about CrossFit Crave: https://www.crossfitcrave.com/

*Update: Since the recoding of this podcast, the ACEP program including the Trauma Training have been cut in the downsizing at CrossFit HQ. Matt and Debbie are continuing the Juvenile Program and the Trauma Training independently. For more information you can contact them at matt@crossfitcrave.com and debbie@crossfitcrave.com

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#49: At 19 years old Kaley Jones’ (she/her) life came to a crossroads: on one path, she could move down to Mexico and continue a life that was gripped by substance use disorder and incredibly dangerous circumstances; or she could begin the long and hard journey of sobriety; an existence that not only seemed impossible, but one she didn’t think she wanted.

Over 10 years later, Kaley says that starting that journey into sobriety was stepping into the fullest form of her human existence. It has been tough work, even grueling at times, but she’s reclaimed the life she thought she wasn’t worthy of at 19, and she’s so grateful she listened to her loved ones and took the leap of faith. We discuss Kaley’s story and more:

A full circle realization- now Kaley works with people who are the same age she was when she got sober. She shows them that there is hope... and she’s proof of it!
Kaley's definition of recovery as her relation to the community she has invested love into, and they have invested their love into her. It’s the group of people that honor her authentic self and encourage her to grow and change.
How looking back, she’s so glad her family held an intervention at 19, because it gave her the opportunity to avoid many more years of suffering.
Kaley doesn’t view recovery in relation to what she’s avoiding, rather it’s about what she’s leaning into and what life is now offering her.
The importance of community in early sobriety; providing evidence that there is a version of everyone that can live and thrive in recovery.
Kaley’s first introduction to The Phoenix: how after leaving the safety of treatment and the support it offered, she doubted she could live a thriving life in sobriety until she met someone wearing a “sober” shirt at a 12-step meeting.

You can hear more of Kaley's story at the links below:
Stand Together Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perspectives-sober-stigma/id1639125207?i=1000579441913

Phoenix Moab Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZwV5Mfo02E

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#48: When Payton Kennedy (she/her) joined the SHE RECOVERS community, she found a space of acceptance, where women feel less alone in recovery. She found a community that accepts the differences in each person’s unique path, and recognizes the connective threads of recovery and healing. We discuss these topics and more:

How Payton revived her love of dancing and movement- activities she didn’t know if she could do in sobriety- and how when she “danced like there was no tomorrow” she found cathartic expression and deeper connection,
Her continuous growth and understanding of recovery organizations: learning that many pathways to recovery have privilege attached,
The importance of making recovery more inclusive,
The many ways her recovery journey has shifted over the years through exploration of what she loves (and what she doesn’t!)… mirroring the ways we allow ourselves to change and grow in life,
The courage it takes to reach out your hand and say “please help me.”
Payton’s loving reassurance that someone will be there to take your hand in recovery,
The exciting news that SHE RECOVERS 2023 is coming to Chicago September 29-October1, to highlight and celebrate strength, diversity, inclusion, and innovation…by women for women and non-binary individuals who identify with women’s communities. Check the link below to get your tickets!

Payton Kennedy is the Creator & Trainer of SHE RECOVERS Dance, a Life & Recovery Coach, Trauma-Informed Yoga Teacher and Dance Facilitator, and an Events Lead for SHE RECOVERS Foundation.

SHE RECOVERS is a non-profit movement dedicated to redefining recovery, inspiring hope, ending stigma and empowering women in or seeking recovery to increase their recovery capital, heal themselves and help other women to do the same.

Connect with SHE RECOVERS:

Instagram: @She_Recovers

Learn more about the SHE RECOVERS Foundation: www.sherecovers.org

Check out SHE RECOVERS 2023 Chicago event: https://sherecovers.org/chicago-event/

Connect with Payton:

Instagram: @Expand.Beyond.Recovery

Website: www.paytonkennedy.com

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#47 Author Sarah Levy joins us on the show today to talk about recovery and her recently published book, “Drinking Games.”

In her early 20’s, Sarah realized that being a self-described “party girl” was actually a problem with alcohol. We discuss the shift that happened when she finally asked for help, what it was like to get sober as a young person, and so much more:

How it was hard to admit even to herself that she had a problem, because everything looked good on the outside,
Sarah’s shame in early sobriety, and the shift that happened when she started to write publicly about her experiences,
The feedback she received from young women when her book was published, and how it felt to know she was making a difference in their lives,
What it feels like to write for the public versus writing as a tool for healing,
The joy of community in recovery- and encouragement for anyone still seeking the community that feels right for them.

Sarah Levy is the author of Drinking Games, a memoir in essays from St. Martin’s Press. Her writing explores sobriety, relationships, culture, and identity, and has appeared in The New York Times, The Cut, Vogue, Glamour, TIME, Elle, Refinery29, and Cosmopolitan, among other publications. Sarah lives in Los Angeles by way of New York City.

Connect with Sarah, buy her book, or find a resource mentioned in this episode at the following links:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1250280583?

https://www.sarahllevy.com

https://www.instagram.com/sarahllevy/

https://www.aa.org

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#46: In a special bonus episode, we continue our celebration of National Volunteer Week with Phoenix volunteer Susannah Wingfield. The first to bring Phoenix classes to Detroit, Susannah’s path to sobriety was inextricably linked to her CrossFit journey and the non-judgmental community she found at her own gym. We discuss the influence of CrossFit on Susannah’s recovery, how she gives back to her community, and much more:

Susannah’s work as a social worker and how she must balance between tenderness and toughness,
How through this work, Susannah has learned to find at least one thing about each person that she truly likes and appreciates, even when that person refuses help,
The vitality but simultaneous difficulty of asking for help when you’re stuck in a rut,
Her desire to bring free CrossFit classes to others seeking recovery, knowing how much the community and physicality supported her own recovery,
The ways her efforts to give back aligned with The Phoenix movement,
Her assertion that each individual can make a positive contribution to their community in a variety of ways... Come as you are!
What it's like when no one comes to class; and the power of showing up anyway. The compassion and understanding she had to cultivate to know each person will take that first step in their own time.

Once again, THANK YOU to Susannah and all of our volunteers that continue to spark hope and build the connections and community that drive this recovery movement.

Want to become a volunteer? After you attend at least one Phoenix event you gain access to a volunteer application through the mobile app. Everyone has something to offer, and there is always a need for your unique contribution.

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#45: This week we celebrate National Volunteer Week and say an enormous “Thank You!” to the folks who generously and selflessly give back to our communities, contributing to making this a world we live in a better one for us all. In this episode we asked previous podcast guests to share the impact of their own volunteer experience:

Kelvin (Episode 22): Volunteering fosters a space where “Connection is the cure,”
Jamen (Episode 7): Volunteering is a way to find like-minded sober people, no matter where you move,
Gabi (Episode 11): Volunteering helps her spread light and hope to her community,
Holly (Episode 13): Volunteering is a key part of her recovery and gave her a support system that she taps into everyday
Jaclyn: It is a gift to work with volunteers and help them bring Phoenix alive in other communities. They show that sobriety can be creative, connection, and fun!
Liz: Volunteering sparked self worth that was missing, and supported her recovery in immeasurable ways,
Bryce: Volunteering allows us to contribute to a space and community we believe in, to give back to others on the same journey.

Once you have attended at least one Phoenix event you gain access to a volunteer application through the mobile app. Everyone has something to offer, and there is always a need for your unique contribution.

THANK YOU to our incredible, generous volunteers! We could not do this work without you.

Be sure you are subscribed to the Rise Recover Live Podcast! We'll be back with another recovery story later this week and you do not want to miss it.

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#44: When Nick Wells went to prison, he had no reason to think he would see freedom again in his lifetime. With 14 years of addiction and trouble dragging behind him and a 60-year sentence looming ahead, life seemed to be over. You might never guess that he was the same guy we welcome to the podcast today... but he is, and he's changed more than just his own life.

Granted clemency just short of 14 years into what could have amounted to a life sentence, Nick is more dedicated than ever to continuing the work he started inside; bettering the lives of men and women behind bars through mentorship, community, and accountability.

Despite a busy schedule that starts before dawn, he shares his story with us today. We discuss this and more:

How painting murals in prison started a journey from isolation to self-worth, and a realization: “You don’t need to worry about the rest of your life, you need to start focusing on what you can do, and believe that you can do it,”
The role that fitness played in Nick’s recovery from substance use, and how he inspired others to walk the same path,
Why he took a chance on training those deemed un-saveable... and how he proved everyone wrong,
How a group of guys doing CrossFit workouts in prison started a groundbreaking organization called RF2, and the way it continues to change prison culture today,
How an unlikely pairing at a DOC CrossFit competition led to the freedom Nick never dreamed possible.
What it’s like to wake up every morning a free man,
Why he won’t ever stop working to shift the self-worth of people who are incarcerated, and how he shows his friends inside that they are loved.

To learn more & support Redemption Road, visit the website at https://www.rf2.org/ or email nick@rft.org.

You can also connect on Facebook or Instagram:

https://www.facebook.com/RedemptionRoadCrossfit , https://www.instagram.com/redemptionroadcrossfit/

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#43: In our most laughter-filled episode yet, we chat with Ryn Gargulinski, a.k.a. Rynski; a spiritual grief recovery coach, Reiki master, award-winning writer, and author of "How to Get Through Hell on Earth Without Drinking a Keg or Kicking a Garden Gnome." Rynski shares her personal story and journey to “High-Vibe Living,” with a message of hope and healing through all of life’s challenges.

Today we discuss:

The catharsis that came with writing her new book, which has been 20 years in the making,
How her identity in recovery became broader and brighter, turning into a “million identities” as she gained more confidence and expanded her interests,
The lightness Ryn has learned to find in the dark spaces, and how she lets go of negativity and uses laughter to get through grief,
How showing up to the wrong certification class launched her on a journey of self-discovery, reflection, and spirituality through the practice of Reiki... changing her whole life in the process,
Ryn's message to herself and for us all: “You deserve to be loved.”

Connect with Rynski:

Reiki Workshops on the 3rd Sunday of every month! Find this class &the full livestream schedule here: https://thephoenix.org/find-a-class/live-streaming/

Website & Info on Grief Recovery Coaching: https://rynskirecovery.com/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ryngargulinski

“How to Get Through Hell on Earth Without Drinking a Keg or Kicking a Garden Gnome” on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Through-Without-Drinking-Kicking-Garden/dp/1937539091/ _________________________________________________________________________

Join the Phoenix community & sign up for classes with a single click by downloading The Phoenix App! In the app, you can connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group. Let us know what you thought about today's episode, and what you'd like to hear in future shows! We can't wait to chat with you there.

Learn more about The Phoenix, sign up for classes, or become a volunteer at https://thephoenix.org/ .

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#42: In a very special episode, and our first ever LIVE recording, Liz and Bryce share their personal recovery journeys with each other and our listening community.

Hear about the carefully hidden anxiety Liz experienced from an early age, and how what she thought was finally the solution became a problem of its own. And listen as Bryce describes his attempts to get help, and the barriers that he had to overcome to access the support he needed.

Some of our conversation includes the following:

What it looked like to be a high achiever despite a growing dependence on alcohol,
How The Phoenix changed Liz's view of sobriety after years of shame,
The busy mind that Bryce felt he needed to numb to fit in,
How being a young father impacted his trajectory of recovery,
The difference in Liz's experience of finding The Phoenix when she was new to recovery versus Bryce's introduction several years in,
The scary moments when both Liz and Bryce stopped being able to hide their addictions,
The role that community plays for every person who comes across The Phoenix, and the healing power in showing up for ourselves & others.

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Join the Phoenix community & sign up for classes with a single click by downloading The Phoenix App! In the app, you can connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group. Let us know what you thought about today's episode, and what you'd like to hear in future shows! We can't wait to chat with you there.

Learn more about The Phoenix, sign up for classes, or become a volunteer at https://thephoenix.org/ .

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#41: After 10 years of writing and performing music in Denver, Spencer Hughes found himself at a crossroads, wondering WHY he was making music, and whether it was the right path for him. Amid this self-defined identity crisis, he voiced his worries to a local music-scene Facebook group, and was shocked to find that he was far from alone. Encouraged by his peers, Spencer began hosting mental wellness meet-ups for musicians in Denver, and found the deep connection and support he hadn’t known he needed. That meet-up evolved into his nonprofit organization, Music Minds Matter, and began Spencer’s unexpected journey to sobriety.

Tune into the episode to hear us discuss:

How Spencer’s work in mental health for Music Minds Matter led him to reflect on his relationship with alcohol,
A massive shift in the music industry during the pandemic that forced Spencer to reflect on the pace that he and others were producing music, and why,
The revelation that people often turn to music when they’re sad, but no one checks in on the mental health of the artists themselves,
How Spencer’s work and confidence have changed since he got sober, and how sobriety affected his art and his work with Music Minds Matter,
A bright future ahead for the music scene- how new surveys show more and more people are abstaining from drugs and alcohol at shows and festivals.

To learn more about Music Minds Matter, visit musicmindsmatter.org

Register here for Sober Sessions in Denver: https://www.musicmindsmatter.org/sober-sessions
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Join the music industry, artists, fans, and allies who are uniting to destigmatize addiction and support recovery. Learn more at https://www.1millionstrong.com/the-phoenix/

Join the Phoenix community & sign up for classes with a single click by downloading The Phoenix App! In the app, you can connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group. Let us know what you thought about today's episode, and what you'd like to hear in future shows! We can't wait to chat with you there.

Learn more about The Phoenix, sign up for classes, or become a volunteer at https://thephoenix.org/ .

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#40: Today we talk to author and recovery advocate Alison Jones Webb. Alison found her home in the recovery community through a career in public health. Her work related to prevention, treatment, recovery, and harm reduction introduced her to people and their incredible stories, ultimately inspiring her to write “Recovery Allies: How to Support Addiction Recovery and Build Recovery-Friendly Communities".

We discuss:

What it means to be an ally to the recovery community,
The power of storytelling in creating connections, fighting stigma, & building community; and how allies can keep the conversation going,
How working with the recovery community led to self-exploration and reflection about her own attitudes and experiences with substances, as well as her family members’ experiences,
The clarity that comes with understanding and empathizing, and the courage it takes to seek it,
Who and where is the "recovery community," and the importance of recovery-friendly communities to include all of us,
The opportunities that arise for allies to make a "happy connection" around recovery and how those connections & conversations can change public perspective.

To connect with Alison, visit alisonjoneswebb.com

Buy Alison's book! Find it here: https://alisonjoneswebb.com/recovery-allies/

Alison Jones Webb is a public health professional, recovery advocate, affected family member, and author of Recovery Allies: How to Support Addiction Recovery and Build Recovery-Friendly Communities (North Atlantic Books, 2022). She has written extensively about recovery from addiction, treatment, and harm reduction. Her book relies on interviews with people in recovery and up-to-date research to show readers the power of possibility - that there is real hope for people with addictions, and that we all have an important role in helping to support and sustain their recoveries.

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Join the Phoenix community & sign up for classes with a single click by downloading The Phoenix App! In the app, you can connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group. Let us know what you thought about today's episode, and what you'd like to hear in future shows!

Learn more about The Phoenix, sign up for classes, or become a volunteer at https://thephoenix.org/ .

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Resources are for informational purposes. This list is not comprehensive nor constitutes an endorsement by The Phoenix.

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#39: Ambie and Mike Handby are Sober DJ's who love music and love to party. Realizing that spaces to party safely without intoxicants were hard to find, they co-founded Secret Dance Addiction (SDA), and committed to normalizing a healthy nightlife that rejects the belief that we must drink to have fun. Three years later, SDA has redefined what the nightlife looks and feels like, and proves that it is possible to let loose, party, & connect in a positive environment. In this episode we discuss:

The prevalence of addiction and substance use in the culture of music festivals and clubs,
What it looks like to “party positive” in a space that lets people connect as their true selves without the filter of drugs and alcohol,
The need to “take back” traditional drinking spaces whose revenue model is driven by alcohol sales, and create more inclusive nightclubs with full non-alcoholic beverage menus,
How addiction is a box... and recovery can be too,
The power of taking back the party, including the language we use around nightlife. Why Mike and Ambie love and use the term “get lit” at sober events.

To learn more about Secret Dance Addiction, visit https://www.secretdanceaddiction.com/

To follow Secret Dance Addiction on Instagram, click HERE

Learn more about The Phoenix, sign up for classes, or become a volunteer at https://thephoenix.org/ .

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#38: Jackson Longan has been part of the Oxford House community for 15 of his 17 years sober. Today, we hear Jackson’s story, and how an unconventional approach to sober living is changing lives.

Jackson shares his shock of graduating from high school with honors, only to find himself struggling with substance use and sleeping on the streets at age 19,
We hear about his first attempt to get sober, the health scare that led to relapse, and the community that changed his outlook on life in recovery,
How Oxford House is different than other sober living options- and with more than 2000 houses in operation,
What it means to be a “self-run, self-supported recovery house,”
The importance of putting ourselves first, and how that can be true alongside a life of service.

To learn more about Oxford House, visit https://oxfordhouse.org/

To find vacancies at an Oxford House near you, visit https://www.oxfordvacancies.com/

To connect with Jackson on Facebook, find him HERE.

Learn more about The Phoenix, sign up for classes, or become a volunteer at https://thephoenix.org/ .

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#37: When Dallas Miller and Jeremy Terrell met at a treatment center for substance use disorder, Dallas was starting treatment, and could not comprehend the cheerfulness that radiated from a smiling, tattooed, recovering-out-loud counselor who turned out to be Jeremy.

Through treatment, community, and their eventual deep friendship, Jeremy found recovery, became a counselor himself (at the same rehab!), and a partnership was formed. Today, the two are founders and CEO’s of Rehab Road Trips, a full-service media production company dedicated exclusively to the behavioral health space. Through video, they capture authentic peeks into the treatment space; demystifying the services that have the potential to reduce suffering and save lives.

In this episode we discuss what that work looks like, why it is meaningful to Jeremy & Dallas in their own lives and recovery, and how they help others to find treatment even when it seems impossible.

If you have ever wondered about addiction treatment: what it’s like, whether it’s for you, how in the world it could work for you or your loved ones with the infinite number of barriers we encounter… this is an episode to listen to and share.

Check out Rehab Road Trips and connect with Jeremy and Dallas:

Website - https://rehabroadtrips.com

RRT on Instagram: @rehabroadtrips

Dallas on Instagram: @dallasrrt

Jeremy on Instagram: @jeremyrrt

YouTube channel- @rehabroadtrips https://www.youtube.com/rehabroadtrips

Learn more about The Phoenix, sign up for classes, or become a volunteer at https://thephoenix.org/ .

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#36: For the first time in Rise Recover Live Podcast history we’re dropping two episodes in one week… and Brittany and Becky are the perfect duo to break the mold!
In our conversation, Brittany shares her experience of substance use and recovery, alongside her mom, Becky (also known as “Mom” by much of the Tampa Phoenix community), who reflects on years of feeling afraid for her daughter, and isolated in her family’s suffering.

It’s hard to imagine the two as anything but deeply connected, but their closeness was hard earned.

We discuss Brittany’s path to addiction and the road to recovery; some of which was paved by her father,
Becky’s struggle to support her kids while her husband was working and navigating his own recovery,
How deeply the entire family feels the pain from substance use disorder, and what it’s like to be on both sides of the experience,
The healing power of community not only for those in recovery, but their family and friends,
How Brittany brought The Phoenix to Tampa, and Becky’s role in making the community welcoming for supporters,
Brittany’s role in Liz’s recovery, and full-circle revelations!

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Join the Phoenix community & sign up for classes with a single click by downloading The Phoenix App! In the app, you can connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group. Let us know what you thought about today's episode, and what you'd like to hear in future shows! We can't wait to chat with you there.

Learn more about The Phoenix, sign up for classes, or become a volunteer at https://thephoenix.org/ .

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#35: The first time Dana Smith walked into a Phoenix class, the simple question “how are you doing?” brought unexpected tears. After a long road to recovery that included addiction, incarceration, & living on the streets of Chicago, being able to answer that question with honesty and vulnerability was a brand new experience. With that same honesty and vulnerability, Dana shares her thoughts with us today.

Some of our conversation includes:

The power of stories to create real connection- even in the most challenging circumstances,
How Dana’s Phoenix community showed up in love and support following a recent unthinkable tragedy,
The way her personal recovery has evolved from the early days on a pink cloud,
Learning the importance of allies to the recovery movement through her work in development,
What it was like to “grow up” in prison, and the hope and grace she was taught to seek out... even in a place that lacked those things,
Gratitude and motherhood, and the joy that comes from every precious moment.

Learn more about The Phoenix, sign up for classes, or become a volunteer at https://thephoenix.org/ .

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#34: Andy Short joins us today to break down the many stories that make up his life and recovery. With humor and wisdom, he shares the journey that led to his recovery... and the wild ride that came next.

Content Warning: Discussion of suicidal ideation (thoughts of suicide)

We discuss our individual, ever changing narratives, and how they shape our reality,
How comparison was Andy’s first drug,
We hear about love and loss: how his mom supported him through many chapters of his story, and her words that changed the course of his life,
When he asked , "Do you want to hear The Gay Story?” we of COURSE said yes.... and you may be surprised to learn this story occurred several years into recovery.
And how Andy’s recovery community supported him through times that seemed impossible to survive, and why we show up for one another.

Learn more about The Phoenix, sign up for classes, or become a volunteer at https://thephoenix.org/ .

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix or the Rise Recover Live Podcast.

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#33: As the first month of 2023 comes to an end, Liz & Bryce sit down to talk about how the start of a new year felt for them this year in comparison to those that came before it.

Liz shares the vision setting practices she found fun & inspiring this month,
Bryce reflects on how far he's come, and the importance of self compassion as we move through the challenging seasons of life,
We remind ourselves and each other that on some days, just putting one foot in front of the other is a huge accomplishment, and one to be celebrated.

As Liz says in today's episode, every breath we take is a new beginning. Whether you listen to this conversation in January or July, use the tools that feel right today and leave the rest. We're just so glad that you're here.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

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#32: Caleb Ferguson didn’t touch alcohol until he was 21 years old. Once he started, however, it quickly emerged as a problem, and his world shrunk from one rich with social and professional relationships to a life of isolation.

A dear friend to both Liz and Bryce, Caleb shares his personal journey of addiction, recovery, love and loss. Hug your loved ones today, and join us to hear his story.

We discuss the very moment Caleb believes his drinking became a serious problem,
How he considered himself fully functional even when he had lost everything, and the phone call where he finally asked for help,
The devastating family news that changed the course of his life and served as a crossroads in his recovery,
How he met his wife right before going to a no-contact treatment center… and how she made contact,
The joy and relief of knowing that his mom was able to see him sober, and find peace,
How The Phoenix brought all his “pieces” together that were previously separate: family, fitness, and recovery.

In an episode filled with laughter and worthy of some tears, we discuss the “tapestry” of reasons we get and stay sober that extends beyond ourselves, and how the journey is not black and white.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

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#31: In this episode, we talk to Tiffany Foster, who shares her beautifully raw, honest and awe-inspiring story. Wisely advised in the infancy of her recovery to “speak even if your voice shakes,” Tiffany describes some of the darkest moments of her addiction, and how, against all odds, she built a life that she never expected to live.

Content Warning: Mention of Suicidal ideation, Human Trafficking, IV drug use.

A brief episode description could never do this conversation justice, but some topics we discuss are the following:

Growing up between bars and 12 Step Rooms with her parents, and how she started to believe that people just do not get better,
The pain of living on the street, being in and out of institutional facilities, and over 100 attempts at treatment,
The moment she realized that she wanted to live, and the enormity of that single thought,
The brave steps she took when she finally decided to embrace recovery, including going to jail voluntarily,
The organizations and people who opened their arms to her and how much it meant to be seen,
The evolution of her recovery over the years, and changes she had to make in her own healing journey when she became a professional in the recovery space,
What her recovery, relationships, and mindset look like today.

As Tiffany says:
Where there is breath, there is hope. You are not broken.

Share this episode with someone who might need to hear it today.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

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#30: Today we talk to Sophie Lyons; a yoga teacher, a queer person in recovery, and a passionate advocate for her community.

*Content Warning: In this episode there is mention of specific aspects of eating disorders. If this type of conversation feels unsafe for you, it is always ok to skip a week, or have a trusted friend pre-listen before you dive in.

We touch on topics close to Sophie's heart:

How substance use disorder and eating disorder recovery are intricately connected,
The impact of growing up in British culture, with drinking present from an early age,
How working with the recovery community made her realize that she actually belongs here,
What it was like to join recovery groups as a young person, and how not hitting a traditional "rock bottom" made her question her place there,
Pride in the identities she has stepped into; a person in recovery, a queer person, a yoga teacher and practitioner,
How being open about who she is can empower and break down stigma for others in the LGBTQIA+ community,
When she learned to stop "walking on eggshells" and be her full self.

Take a yoga class with Sophie for free & from the comfort of your home! Join her class every Tuesday and Sunday by registering here: https://thephoenix.org/find-a-class/live-streaming/

Join the Phoenix community & sign up for Sophie's classes with a single click by downloading The Phoenix App! In the app, you can connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group. Let us know what you thought about today's episode, and what you'd like to hear in future shows! We can't wait to chat with you there.

Learn more about The Phoenix, sign up for classes, or become a volunteer at https://thephoenix.org/ .

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#29: If gratitude and giving back are part of your New Year’s Intentions (or your any-time-of-the-year intentions), you’ll love this conversation with Erik.

After years of addiction to crystal meth and ultimately incarceration, Erik wasn’t sure he had anything to give. Seeing the pain in his family’s eyes was a catalyst to working toward a different way of living, diving into fitness, and finding recovery. Upon release from prison, Erik quickly learned that he had plenty to give, and began reaching out to help others.

As generous as he is humble, Erik gives us a new understanding of what it means to volunteer, and how much giving back impacts both the giver and recipient. Like so many guests we’ve had on the show, Erik is amazed every day at the life he built in recovery, and the community that surrounds him.

Join the Phoenix community by downloading The Phoenix App! In the app, you can connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group. Let us know what you thought about today's episode, and what you'd like to hear in future shows! We can't wait to chat with you there.

Learn more about The Phoenix, sign up for classes, or become a volunteer at https://thephoenix.org/ .

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#28: Growing up in a rural area, Chelsea battled substance use disorder amidst immense stigma and a severe lack of treatment resources. Today she shares her story of resilience and recovery. This episode is packed with inspiration, messages of hope, and real tools for the recovery journey:

As a self-described people pleaser, how Chelsea finally feels like a person that people really do want to be around,
How we can all lead by example, no matter where we are in our journey,
Tools Chelsea uses in her recovery year after year, such as: HALT, a pro/con lists, and doing “the next right thing,”
What it’s like to work in treatment centers,
Fitness as an unexpected source of joy in recovery,
Being a mom in addiction, and healing in recovery.

With unwavering compassion for the process and a deep belief in people, Chelsea is a beacon of light in the recovery community. This is one to share with a friend!

Join the Phoenix community by downloading The Phoenix App! In the app, you can connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group. Let us know what you thought about today's episode, and what you'd like to hear in future shows! We can't wait to chat with you there.

Learn more about The Phoenix, sign up for classes, or become a volunteer at https://thephoenix.org/ .

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#27: After many years in recovery, Stephen's partner asked, "are you suffering?" and the answer was yes; a constant feeling of not being enough was taking its toll. Today we talk about lies the mind can tell us, and the work that happens in active recovery to see that our thoughts aren't always truth.

In this vulnerable conversation, Stephen opens up about lessons he's learning in recovery, and in fatherhood. We discuss:

The gift of sobriety in parenthood, and the beauty in making mistakes,
How extreme physical challenge of endurance sports can allow a busy mind to be present,
Having a partner in recovery, and prioritizing recovery over everything else.

Stephen shares his own experiences with the thoughts we're all so often thinking: That we're not enough. That we're going to get it all wrong. And without claiming to have any of the answers, he drops gem after gem of personal discovery that might be the very words you need to hear today.

Join the community by downloading The Phoenix App! In the app, you can connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group. Let us know what you thought about today's episode, and what you'd like to hear in future shows! We can't wait to chat with you there.

Learn more about The Phoenix, sign up for classes, or become a volunteer at https://thephoenix.org/ .

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#26: There is a lot of laughter in today's conversation, and we're overjoyed to share the lighthearted energy Keithy brings to the show. But make no mistake, Keithy worked hard for this life that she loves, and she continues to work every day to keep it, and to share what she's learned.

In this episode, we dive into Keithy's story, including the following topics:

Her family's history with alcohol use, and how attempts to demonize drinking may have had the opposite effect,
Learning to live with and manage Bipolar Disorder as a Latina woman (there is no word for "Bipolar" in Spanish!),
The moment she realized that her substance use was not only hurting her, but harming and disrespecting the people she loves,
Why she celebrates two recovery birthdays, more than 7 years apart,
How an unexpected Demi Lovato song may have saved her life,
What conversations with her family look like today.

CW: In this episode we mention suicide attempts. If that conversation feels unsafe for you, it is always ok to skip a week, or to have a trusted friend listen first.

Join the community by downloading The Phoenix App! In the app, you can connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group. Let us know what you thought about today's episode, and what you'd like to hear in future shows! We can't wait to chat with you there.

Learn more about The Phoenix, sign up for classes, or become a volunteer at https://thephoenix.org/ .

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#25: Ryan Hampton was miserable in early recovery, and certain that he had destroyed any chance for a happy, successful life. At a crossroads, he sought wisdom from a friend, who suggested he make the bed each morning. This simple task set the foundation for self-respect and discipline; qualities that now define the man who is a leading voice of recovery advocacy, and founder of Mobilize Recovery.

In a conversation that is as vulnerable as it is enlightening, we discuss the following:

How sharing our stories to create empathy is critical, and when storytelling can harm the movement,
That the work IS working, and the impact we'll never see on reports or pie charts,
What we each can do to affect public policy,
The importance of keeping personal recovery work at a distance from recovery advocacy.

Ryan shares the story of Mobilize Recovery's beginnings, unexpected ways the organization has evolved, and why advocating for policy change and out of the box thinking is critical to solving the addiction crisis.

Mobilize Recovery is an initiative of the Recovery Advocacy Project and the Voices Project. Its mission is to expand policy to support substance use disorder recovery, create connections to supportive services that are vital and lifesaving, and to engage affected individuals in meaningful community action. As Ryan describes it, Mobilize Recovery is a "home" for the big, bold ideas born from the creativity and ingenuity of the recovery community.

To learn more about Mobilize Recovery, and to connect with Ryan and his work, visit the following links:

http://www.recoveryvoices.com/
https://mobilizerecovery.org/
https://ryanhampton.org/
Twitter @RyanForRecovery and IG @ryanjhampton

Join the community by downloading The Phoenix App! In the app, you can connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group. Let us know what you thought about today's episode, and what you'd like to hear in future shows! We can't wait to chat with you there.

Learn more about The Phoenix, sign up for classes, or become a volunteer at https://thephoenix.org/ .

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#24: A dedicated volunteer & advocate, Faizah shares her deep insight into the treatment of Substance Use Disorder (SUD) within our healthcare system. Now a medical resident, she came across The Phoenix as a medical student, and experienced a life changing perspective shift that allowed her to confront her own biases and those held by the medical profession.

We hear about how an unexpected sense of belonging in the recovery community helped Faizah feel comfortable in her own skin. And we discuss the challenges faced by physicians and patients in the treatment of SUD, and the impact of meeting people exactly where they are- even if it's not on the path a doctor might have hoped for.

As we celebrate Faizah's story as a Phoenix volunteer, we want to take a moment to recognize and thank ALL volunteers, who are changing the world one outstretched hand at a time. Phoenix volunteers work tirelessly to end the stigma of addiction by sharing hope and resilience through community. Words cannot express our gratitude for who you are and all that you do.

Join the community by downloading The Phoenix App! In the app, you can connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group. Let us know what you thought about today's episode, and what you'd like to hear in future shows! We can't wait to chat with you there.

Learn more about The Phoenix, sign up for classes, or become a volunteer at https://thephoenix.org/ .

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#23: It’s just Liz & Bryce today, with a mini episode about the holiday season that is made even more fun thanks to YOUR listener input!

Whether or not you observe any holidays during this last stretch of the year, it’s hard to ignore the elevated energy of the season, and the many ways that can affect our recovery journey. This conversation is brief but full of love from our hearts to yours, as we discuss the following:

A reminder that there is no right way to feel about or navigate this season. Your feelings are valid and worthy of compassion no matter where you are on your path.
How Liz made a big change in her family’s traditions, and the surprising response she received when she finally said “This is what I need.”
Thoughts from YOU- how some of you are showing up for yourselves when there has been a need to change your environment & set boundaries.
An invitation to lean into resources and communities that can support you- you are not alone!

If you are listening to this episode the week of 11/22/22, you can join The Phoenix virtually for the following live streamed events this week by using the links below or downloading The Phoenix App! These events are virtual; all are welcome, wherever you are in the world! Times below listed in EST for brevity.

Virtual Turkey Trot Pre-race Party 11/23, 6-7pm EST

Virtual Sober Happy Hour, Wednesday 11/23, 7-8pm EST

Virtual Friendsgiving Open House, Thursday 11/24, 5-7pm EST

Find these events and more when you download The Phoenix App! In the app, you can connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group. Hop in there and let us know what you thought about today's episode, and what you'd like to hear in future shows! We can't wait to chat with you there.

Learn more about The Phoenix, sign up for classes, or become a volunteer at https://thephoenix.org/ .

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#22 Kelvin Young is a healer and a person in recovery. After growing up in an environment that encouraged the suppression of emotions and discouraged healing practices that did not involve substances, his first sound healing experiences were, as he describes, "a sip of healing in a sea of chaos." He knew that if he could experience that level of peace while he was behind bars, the possibilities were endless upon his release from prison. So he became a sound healer himself.

When Kelvin looked around, he didn't see any other men of color in yoga and healing communities. Nor did he see many leaders who looked like him in recovery spaces. In this episode, with an unwavering and deep compassion for himself and others, Kelvin talks frankly about why that is. He names systems that were designed to keep people sick, addicted and incarcerated; and how he not only found freedom within himself, but now reaches out a hand to others & breaks down stigma within and about BIPOC communities.

In addition, we discuss the following:

The beautiful practice of sound healing and other holistic tools.
The power of connection with others, within ourselves, and with nature.
Finding wholeness in exactly who we are.
How media portrayal of black men influenced racial trauma, addiction and incarceration.
Being of service, and how safe healing spaces can break misconceptions.

And so much more! This is an episode you do not want to miss, and one we hope you share with a friend.

Find Phoenix events and more when you download The Phoenix App! In the app, you can connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group. We can't wait to chat with you there!

Connect with Kelvin on his website at https://www.kelvinbyoung.com/. Find countless free sound healing recordings simply by searching YouTube for "Sound Healing."

Kelvin co-hosts a live stream special sound healing & yoga class this Sunday, 11/20 at 7pm EST! Sign up for free on The Phoenix App, or CLICK HERE.

Kelvin Young is a certified sound healer and owner of Kelvin Young, LLC. He is also a person in sustained recovery which means he hasn’t used alcohol or any other drug to cope with his mental and emotional distress since March, 6th 2009. Kelvin received his recovery coaching training at CT Community for Addiction Recovery (CCAR) and his Recovery Support Specialist (RSS) certification at Recovery University. (Advocacy Unlimited) He is also trained in Intentional Peer Support (IPS) and Emotional CPR. (eCPR) The first time Kelvin was exposed to sound healing, he discovered the sounds of the crystal and Tibetan singing bowls and gongs calmed his mind, relaxed his body and nourished his soul. He went on to study sound healing with Master Sound Healers, Tony Nec of Sound Healing Academy, Zacciah Blackburn of The Center of Light, Paul Hubbert of the Holographic Sound and Inner Balance and Satya Brat Jaiswal of the International Academy of Sound Healing. Kelvin has also studied with Brian Luke Seaward of Inspiration Unlimited, a renowned international expert in the field of holistic stress management.

Learn more about The Phoenix at https://thephoenix.org/ .

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#21: This episode might not have happened if Bryce hadn't spontaneously hit "record" during a conversation between 2 friends. As a result, today's show is an unfiltered, "fly on the wall" perspective of Bryce and Liz chatting about dating and relationships in sobriety.

Bryce shares his experience as a single man in recovery; discussing what dating was like before he learned to set and maintain personal boundaries, and some of the wisdom he implements now. And as someone who was married before getting sober (check out Episode 12 to meet her husband Billy), Liz discovers an uncomfortable truth about herself, and a "complicated relationship with gratitude."

We talk about experiencing heartbreak for the first time in recovery, Google's unhelpful advice to drink away our sorrows, and why waiting to jump into a relationship in early sobriety can be hard, and can be worth it. Our takeaway from start to finish is that we won't ever have all the answers. And our opinions are just that: opinions. But we do know this for sure: We are all worthy of love and respect.

Find Phoenix events and more when you download The Phoenix App! In the app, you can connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group. Hop in there and let us know what you thought about today's episode, and what you'd like to hear in future shows! We can't wait to chat with you there.

Learn more about The Phoenix, sign up for classes, or become a volunteer at https://thephoenix.org/ .

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#20: Award-winning author Thad Ziolkowski joins us on the podcast today to discuss the unexpected connections between surfing, addiction, and recovery. In a conversation ripe with metaphors, we hear about Thad's own story and complex relationship with the waves. In addition to the wisdom of his lived experience, Thad employs philosophy, spirituality, and science to better understand the mechanism of addiction.

This conversation takes us in directions you may not expect!

You'll hear about the "psychic surgery" that Thad performed to shift his relationship with substances.
Thad shares stories of his youthful snake hunting expeditions.
We discuss the concept of "intermittent reinforcement" as it relates to motivation and substance use.
And a dialog about how we each view and approach labels used in the recovery space.

Thad's most recent book, The Drop, is the featured read for virtual book club on The Phoenix Live Stream platform in November! Join us Wednesdays at 6pm EST, and enjoy a special appearance of the author himself for a live Q & A at the end of the month! Sign up on The Phoenix App or www.thephoenix.org.

Thad Ziolkowski is the author of Our Son the Arson, a collection of poems, the memoir On a Wave, which was a finalist for the PEN/Martha Albrand Award in 2003, and Wichita, a novel. His most recent book, The Drop, which explores the relationship between surfing and addiction, was published by HarperCollins in 2021. His essays and reviews have appeared in The New York Times, Slate, Bookforum, Artforum, Travel & Leisure, Interview Magazine and Index. He is the recipient of a Guggenheim Fellowship and has a PhD in English Literature from Yale University.

Find Thad's work wherever books are sold, or use this link to learn more about The Drop: https://www.harperwave.com/book/9780062965936/The-Drop-Thad-Ziolkowski/

Find Phoenix events and more when you download The Phoenix App! In the app, you can connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group. We can't wait to chat with you there!

Learn more about The Phoenix at https://thephoenix.org/ .

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#19: Today we are joined by fellow recovery podcaster, Doug Pancy, host of the Casting Light Podcast. We hear Doug's personal story; one that includes more starts and stops than he can count, and the "spiritual death" that had to finally happen for him to let go of his ego and step into a life of recovery. As Doug says, "Rock bottom is what you make it."

Once grappling for a sense of belonging and identity, Doug now knows who he is, what he enjoys, and can say with confidence that today, he is truly happy.

We discuss professional treatment as a pathway to sobriety, the power of how we talk to ourselves, and some challenges of new recovery. When he stopped using substances, Doug was left with parts of himself that still needed healing- even after the drugs and alcohol were gone. Throughout our conversation, Doug expresses his gratitude for the entire journey, and for a community that lifts one other up through shared experiences and hard-earned wisdom.

Doug mentions his work with Guiding Light; a free, inpatient substance use treatment program for men. To learn more, visit https://guidinglightworks.org/
To listen to Guiding Light's podcast, hosted by Doug, you can search for "Casting Light" wherever you get podcasts, or use this link to find the show on YouTube, Vimeo and other major platforms: https://linktr.ee/casting_light_podcast
You can also enjoy clips on TikTok, at https://www.tiktok.com/@casting_light_podcast

Find Phoenix events and more when you download The Phoenix App! In the app, you can connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group. We can't wait to chat with you there!

Learn more about The Phoenix at https://thephoenix.org/ .

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#18: In this episode we discuss Eating Disorder recovery, and the parallels with Substance Use Disorder. Along with her own recovery journey, Erika shares how meditation became a daily practice after years of resistance, and her road to a healthy relationship with food, exercise and body image.

As a yoga instructor and community builder, Erika's willingness to be vulnerable empowers others to release shame and own their stories. She is on a mission to create safer communities by raising awareness of language that is supportive versus harmful, particularly in spaces such as fitness, where diet culture is so common.

Far from a lecture on "what not to say," this episode offers tools to support yourself and others while welcoming nothing but grace for the times we unintentionally cause harm with our words.

Ready to try a guided meditation? You can join Erika for (free!) meditation classes on the Phoenix live stream platform on Mondays at 2pm EST. She teaches yoga on Mondays at 1pm EST and Tuesdays & Thursdays at 5:30pm EST. And join her for weekly book club every Wednesday at 6pm EST!

Find Erika's classes and more when you download The Phoenix App to connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group! Learn more about The Phoenix at https://thephoenix.org/ .

Did you love this episode? Please share with a friend!

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#17: In March 2020, while the world was navigating the uncertainty of a global pandemic, Alex began the courageous and often uncertain journey of recovery. As someone who was once hesitant to share his thoughts and feelings with a world that felt unsafe, today he discusses personal practices, reflections, and how burnout has shown up for him.

Coming from a place of carelessness for himself and those around him, Alex is now an active participant and leader in the Phoenix community; making intentional choices that enrich his life and the lives of his community. He uses his own challenging experiences of feeling lost and not belonging to help others feel welcome, safe and seen.

As Alex says in this episode; It's going to be alright. We are in your corner.

Join us on The Phoenix App to connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group! Learn more about The Phoenix at https://thephoenix.org/ .

If you enjoy this episode, please share with a friend!

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#16: This episode is a humble exploration of lessons Bryce has learned in recovery, starting with his answer to "how are you?" which is typically: "I'm better than I ever have been before." We discuss the difference between expressing positivity as a self-affirming practice and the concept of toxic positivity.

Liz asks the hard question; "Do you really have it together as much as you appear to?" And as usual, Bryce has an uplifting and very real response. (spoiler alert... his immediate answer is "nope!") As a person with 9 years of recovery, experience as a coach and meditation teacher, and a frequent public speaker, Bryce is open about how he balances the roles of teacher and student.

We mention Bryce's own podcast on this episode, which you can find on all podcast players, or click here: https://linktr.ee/youfeelthatpodcast . Find Bryce on Instagram at @brycethethird.

Join us on The Phoenix App to connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group! Learn more about The Phoenix at https://thephoenix.org/ .

If you enjoy this episode, please share with a friend!

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#15: The day has finally arrived! Today we sit down with Phoenix Founder and Executive Director, Scott Strode. Scott founded the sober, active community of The Phoenix, but demonstrates his deep belief in people by creating space for others to help shape the movement with their creativity and knowledge of each unique community.

This conversation is extra special, because Scott shares how fatherhood changed his recovery and his life's very purpose. He and Bryce discuss the parallels between fatherhood and recovery, and how disrupting generational patterns of trauma can change the way society approaches addiction.

Scott has said many times that society views people who have experienced addiction as the problem, while at The Phoenix, we are the solution. In this discussion he describes how his own experiences with The Phoenix have illustrated this point over and over again.

You'll hear the unexpected way that Scott recharges and relaxes, and get a glimpse into his poetic side.

This is one that you just don't want to miss. Whether you are already connected to The Phoenix or you are still wrapping your head around what a "sober, active community" even means, there is something in this episode that will inspire you to go even deeper.

To hear Scott's TEDx talk, visit THIS LINK.

Join us on The Phoenix App to join classes and groups, & connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group! Or- learn more about The Phoenix and get involved at https://thephoenix.org/.

If you enjoy this episode, please share with a friend! As Scott said, in addiction we often feel alone, and we truly are not! Send this or any episode to someone in your life who might need to hear that they are not alone, and together we really do Rise, Recover and Live.

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#14: Angus Morton is a documentary filmmaker, a sportsman, and a person in recovery. Joining us for this conversation fresh off a film project, Angus shares his story of substance use, recovery, and relapse from the perspective of a person in the public eye.

In recovery, Angus' relationship with the activities he had already been passionate about did not wane, they simply changed. For him, sport was both a path toward addiction and a way to break out. And his approach to filmmaking and his lifelong dedication to creativity simply expanded when he chose to tell his story and process recovery through art.

See the work that Angus and his company, Thereabouts, produces at https://www.thereabouts.co/ and follow along with his podcast at https://thereabouts.ghost.io/

Join us on The Phoenix App to connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group! Learn more about The Phoenix at https://thephoenix.org/ .

If you enjoy this episode, please share with a friend!

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#13: Holly works in the recovery industry, is an active Phoenix member and volunteer, and is a person in recovery; but this is the first time she has told her story on a public platform. And we are so glad she did.

In active substance use, a life of sobriety seemed utterly impossible to Holly. She had more scary experiences than she could count, but continued to hide the severity of her addiction from her family for years and believed that she deserved this life. Today she has a very different outlook. Her simple but powerful words of affirmation might be just the message you or someone you love needs to hear today.

Today, Holly is proud of herself, and she's proud of you for being here. So are we.

Join us on The Phoenix App to connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group! Learn more about The Phoenix at https://thephoenix.org/ .

If you enjoy this episode, please share it with a friend!

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#12: This week's episode is extra special, as we are joined by Liz's husband, Billy. From the perspective of a supporter, Billy and Liz talk through their journey as a couple during the hardest years of her alcohol addiction, and some of the challenges that arose in recovery.

This episode is especially for you if you have loved someone who struggles with substance use. However, we want to stress that every story is different. If you or a loved one is experiencing addiction and your relationship looks different from what we hear about today; your experience is just as valid, and your physical and emotional safety are the highest priority.

Join us on The Phoenix App to connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group! Learn more about The Phoenix at https://thephoenix.org/ .

If you enjoy this episode, please share with a friend!

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#11 From the very start of today's episode, Gabi's loving energy is as captivating as her story. As a person in recovery and a yoga, meditation and mindfulness teacher, Gabi has walked multiple paths of recovery. She talks about her many rock bottoms and why even the worst of them weren't enough to make her put down the drink and drugs for years. She shares how her love for AA and the spiritual experience of yoga came together to strengthen her recovery when she didn't feel strong. And she shares a beautiful message to her former self that brings our hosts to tears.

If you are in need of a recovery story and also a warm hug, this episode feels like both. If you are a person who feels recovery starting to lose it's vibrancy, this episode might brighten your view. And if you are someone who worries that there is no way anyone could understand what you are going through, and recovery just isn't ever going to be possible for you... listen to the very end. There really is hope.

Join us on The Phoenix App to connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group! Learn more about The Phoenix at https://thephoenix.org/ .

If you enjoy this episode, please share with a friend!

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#10 This week Bryce and Liz hop on the mic solo- without a guest. Get comfortable and join us for a chat between friends in recovery. We dive into Liz's recent drinking dream, how we use "smoke signals" like dreams as clues that it might be time to ask for help, and how Bryce practiced "recovery in action" when he put his elbow through a car door (he's ok!).

This episode is named after a concept that comes from writer Glennon Doyle; that the goal of the journey isn't to avoid the fire, but to realize that we are fireproof. We hope you walk away from this conversation with a little more faith in yourself, and with a smile on your face.

We sure did.

Join us on The Phoenix App to connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group! Learn more about The Phoenix at https://thephoenix.org/ .

If you enjoy this episode, please share with a friend!

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#9: Today's episode with Gavin is so multifaceted, it was hard to choose a title! We go in many directions with this conversation, discussing fatherhood, trauma, varying perceptions and experiences of 12 step programs, and more.

Gavin shares what it was like to get sober in his 20s, and all the lessons he still had to learn after he put down the drink. We talk about facing the pain that substances are covering up, and how getting sober is only one part of recovery. Gavin realized that coping strategies like diving into work, or trying to "win" at yoga can be just another way to escape, and found out what it feels like to be completely honest with himself and with others.

Join us on The Phoenix App to connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group! Learn more about The Phoenix at https://thephoenix.org/ .

If you enjoy this episode, please share with a friend!

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#8: This week we are fortunate to sit down with mom, author, and TEDx speaker Samantha Perkins. In her blog and best selling book, "Alive AF - One Anxious Mom's Journey to Becoming Alcohol Free," Samantha shares the role alcohol played in her story of motherhood and mental health. In this episode we discuss "mommy wine culture," and the messages moms receive about drinking as a coping mechanism... and how parenting sober gives her the joy that alcohol had promised.

Samantha shares her process of becoming a writer and speaker following the identity crisis that came with making a choice to walk away from drinking culture. As someone without what may have appeared as a typical "drinking problem," Samantha forged her own path, found her own community, and created a life that she is fully present for. This conversation is full of gems for anyone seeking inspiration to live their fullest life- whether you are a mom or not. As Samantha says "You don't know what you don't know... just take the first step."

You can find inspiration and Samantha's Community on Instagram at @samanthaperkins_aliveaf , check out her TEDx talk here and grab her book; Alive AF: One Mom's Journey To Becoming Alcohol Free everywhere you buy books.

Resources mentioned in this episode:
Writer Holly Whitaker's work, which you can find at: https://www.hollywhitaker.com/
Morning Pages, learn more at https://juliacameronlive.com/basic-tools/morning-pages/

Join us on The Phoenix App to connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group! If YOU are a parent, look for our Sober Mom's and Sober Dad's groups! Learn more about The Phoenix at https://thephoenix.org/ .

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#7: 8 years of sobriety had Jamen convinced that his willpower was strong enough to control every aspect of his life and recovery. After discovering that (spoiler alert) this was not true, he found that surrender is the key to unlocking everything he'd ever hoped for. This episode has it all: reminders that we ARE ok, permission to get emotional, the power of authenticity, and some very cool stories about a famous athlete that Jamen unexpectedly joined forces with!

As Jamen says, "Recovery is personal." Weight loss is part of Jamen's personal story, and if that is a topic that is unsafe for you, it's ok to wait for next week, or to have a trusted friend listen first. We do not discuss Eating Disorders (ED) in this episode, but recognize that ED is part of recovery for many of us. Please take care of yourself above all else.

Jamen runs in honor of his dad, who has been battling Parkinson's Disease for over 11 years. You can learn more about Jamen's documentary at https://www.run4ben.com/.

Download The Phoenix App and connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group! Learn more about The Phoenix at https://thephoenix.org/.

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#6: On this week’s episode we are thrilled to sit down with founder of National Sober Day, Courtney Andersen! Courtney is a coach and the host of Sober Vibes, a podcast and community that empowers and inspires your sober journey. Courtney shares her story (her "why" is unexpected!) and the importance of laughter, dance parties, and the support of community to bring joy to recovery. As Courtney says, “You did not get sober just to stay at home!” This conversation is full of reminders that none of us have to go it alone, and that every path is worth celebrating.

You can find inspiration and Courtney’s Podcast Community on Instagram at @Sober.Vibes, and join her women’s sober group on Facebook, also called Sober Vibes. Check out her podcast, Sober Vibes, which just celebrated 100 episodes (!!) on all podcast platforms. To inquire about sober coaching with Courtney you can visit courtneyrecovered.com. Be sure to mark your calendar for National Sober Day on September 14th!

Join us on The Phoenix App to connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group! Learn more about The Phoenix at https://thephoenix.org/ .

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#5: Chris is as relatable as he is inspiring; and today he shares his story and the tools that helped him find and stay in recovery. After multiple times in jail, in treatment, and several nearly fatal overdoses, Chris was willing to do whatever it took to get sober. And even then, he had to learn how to handle stress without reaching for a drug or a drink. You'll hear about Chris' willingness to get uncomfortable, and how his personal meditation practice changed his life and recovery.

Join us in The Phoenix App to connect with Chris, Liz & Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group!

In this episode we talk about the following resources:
Phoenix On Demand Meditations : also available on the app (which feature Chris!)
Live Stream Meditations & More with The Phoenix : also available on the app (all free!)
Insight Timer (a free app, not affiliated with The Phoenix)

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#4: Tony is great at helping others. He served in the military, he loves his kids more than anything, and he cares deeply about his peers in recovery. But Tony struggled to ask for help when he needed it most. In this deeply personal episode, we go all the way back to Tony's childhood when tragedy and chaos seemed like the norm, and we hear about the effects of deployment on relationships and substance use. Through hard work and community, he found recovery, and now Tony is dedicated to showing struggling youth and fellow veterans that they don't have to go it alone.

Join the Podcast Community! Download The Phoenix App and join the "Rise Recover Live Podcast Group" to connect with hosts, guests and listeners!

If you are a veteran and need support, the following organizations might be able to help:
Irreverent Warriors: https://irreverentwarriors.com/

Team Red, White & Blue: https://www.teamrwb.org

The Mission Continues: https://www.missioncontinues.org/

FitOps: https://fitops.org/

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Join the Podcast Community! Download The Phoenix App and join the \"Rise Recover Live Podcast Group\" to connect with hosts, guests and listeners!

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Join our Podcast Community! Download The Phoenix App and be sure to join the \"Rise Recover Live Podcast Group.\"

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Rise Recover Live is powered by The Phoenix, a national nonprofit organization and sober, active community. Download The Phoenix App or visit the website here.

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